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From "Geir Magnusson Jr." <g...@pobox.com>
Subject Re: Request for JSR 200 TCK (changed subject)
Date Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:36:52 GMT
Go get the spec.  Read the spec license.

geir

On Feb 2, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Craig L Russell wrote:

> Looking at the JSR 200 page on the tck web site http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=200 
>  it looks to me like there was no intent to make 200 available as an  
> independent JSR.
>
> <<
> 2.13 Please describe how the RI and TCK will de delivered, i.e. as  
> part of a profile or platform edition, or stand-alone, or both.  
> Include version information for the profile or platform in your  
> answer.
> This JSR will be delivered as part of J2SE 1.5 "Tiger".
>
> 2.14 Please state the rationale if previous versions are available  
> stand-alone and you are now proposing in 2.13 to only deliver RI and  
> TCK as part of a profile or platform edition (See sections 1.1.5 and  
> 1.1.6 of the JCP 2 document).
> N/A
>
> 2.15 Please provide a description of the business terms for the  
> Specification, RI and TCK that will apply when this JSR is final.
> This JSR will be delivered as part of J2SE 1.5 "Tiger". The proposed  
> J2SE 1.5 licensing terms are available here http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/jsr/tiger/BizTerms.html
>
> >>
>
> I don't see anything here to indicate that the spec was intended to  
> be licensed for independent implementation... And "On 2004-09-13  
> Apache Software Foundation voted Yes with no comment." http://jcp.org/en/jsr/results?id=2774
>
> Craig
>
> On Feb 2, 2009, at 6:23 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
>> I will - this is important.  It can't be the case that a spec lead  
>> doesn't have to provide a TCK if the spec is licensed for  
>> independent implementation.
>>
>> geir
>>
>> On Feb 2, 2009, at 4:27 AM, Sian January wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the update Geir.  Would be great to keep pushing for  
>>> 200 if you can.
>>>
>>> Sian
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/1/29 Geir Magnusson Jr. <geir@pobox.com>:
>>>> I have!
>>>>
>>>> Current status on outstanding :
>>>>
>>>> 311: waiting for "executive signature" on the license  (I dropped  
>>>> off a
>>>> signed copy a little over a week or so ago when I was in bay area)
>>>>
>>>> 200: there is no standalone TCK for this JSR.  I've suggested  
>>>> that they make
>>>> one, or just give us the Java SE5 TCK.  THe spec lead was  
>>>> required to
>>>> deliver a TCK for this.
>>>>
>>>> 196: waiting on internal Sun legal for a license for us to sign.
>>>>
>>>> geir
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 29, 2009, at 1:02 PM, David Jencks wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Have you managed to uncover anything :-) ?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 18, 2009, at 12:08 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, nor 200.  There's a stall somewhere.  I'm digging.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2009, at 2:49 PM, David Jencks  
>>>>>> <david_jencks@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any progress on this one?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 9, 2008, at 6:49 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thx for the reminder.  I've sent the application for the
 
>>>>>>>> license (full
>>>>>>>> disclosure - this reminded me).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They don't come back this fast btw - 200 is also still  
>>>>>>>> pending approval
>>>>>>>> by the board.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll see what I can do to usher this forward.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> geir
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 9, 2008, at 8:19 PM, David Jencks wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's been a week.... any progress on this?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> many thanks
>>>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2008, at 5:55 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> of course!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2008, at 8:20 PM, David Jencks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Geir,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have an implementation of jaspi for geronimo
I'd like to  
>>>>>>>>>>> test
>>>>>>>>>>> (http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=196).  The final
release  
>>>>>>>>>>> of this spec was
>>>>>>>>>>> on 10 Oct 2007.  Could you please see if we can
get the  
>>>>>>>>>>> tck for it?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> many thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>
> Craig L Russell
> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>


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