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From "Geir Magnusson Jr." <g...@pobox.com>
Subject Re: Clarification of TCK policy
Date Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:23:36 GMT
No - we actually get Lance annoyed because we forget to tell them  
sometimes and the read about it on our site :)

On Mar 18, 2008, at 2:21 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote:

>
> On Mar 18, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
>>
>> On Mar 18, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 18, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 18, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Craig L Russell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to get a bit more clarity as to acceptable use of TCK  
>>>>> in Apache projects. The latest official word, from http://www.apache.org/jcp/

>>>>> :
>>>>>
>>>>> <official-word>
>>>>> Projects must keep the official TCK materials confidential. Use  
>>>>> your best judgement. For the elimination of doubt, public  
>>>>> discussion about using the TCK, bugs found while using the TCK,  
>>>>> and any project-created frameworks or assisting software or  
>>>>> documentation that do not reveal the official confidential TCK  
>>>>> material is acceptable.
>>>>> </official-word>
>>>>>
>>>>> My best judgement says any of the below is subject to the TCK  
>>>>> NDA (as strictly interpreted by others in the past) but the  
>>>>> information is extremely useful to help project members who have  
>>>>> not signed the NDA.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are some specific questions that have come up before:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Can a project publicly post statistical results of a TCK run?  
>>>>> e.g.     [java] Total tests run: 1593. Failures: 0, Errors: 5.
>>>>
>>>> I can speak about the J2EE TCK.  We are not allowed to publish  
>>>> statistical results of a TCK run.  We cannot publish the progress  
>>>> of a specific version with regards to its passing the TCK.  We  
>>>> can only state wether a specific version passes the TCK or not.
>>>
>>> A little more detail.  We can only state that a specific version  
>>> passes the TCK after we have notified Sun and they have ACK'd.
>>
>> I don't know where that comes from.  We self-certify and then tell  
>> Sun afterwards.  There's no requirement to get that ack.
>
>
> Ahh, ok.  I was always under the impression that Sun had to ACK  
> after we self-certify and tell Sun before we make a public  
> announcement.  My bad.
>
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
>


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