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From Henning Schmiedehausen <henn...@apache.org>
Subject Re: developing JSR RIs and TCKs at Apache
Date Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:16:37 GMT
I thought it was the other way 'round (they were developed at Sun and 
then donated to the ASF)? They came in through the incubator...

	Best regards
		Henning



Craig L Russell schrieb:
> Java Data Objects [1] and [2] have the TCK developed as an Apache 
> Project [3].
> 
> Craig
> 
> [1] http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/final/jsr012/index2.html
> [2] http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=243
> [3] http://db.apache.org/jdo
> 
> On Jan 21, 2008, at 9:45 AM, David Nuescheler wrote:
> 
>> On 1/21/08, Sam Ruby <rubys@apache.org> wrote:
>>> The board set up an officer's position for matters relating to the
>>> JCP, and Geir has held that role since its inception.  I would
>>> discourage anybody else from directly submitting a JSR on behalf of
>>> the ASF, and instead encourage them to work with Geir to define the
>>> process by which this can be done.
>> I agree. Submitting a JSR and becoming a spec-lead is a
>> multi year commitment for the spec-lead organization that should
>> require thought.
>>
>>> To my knowledge, that work
>>> (defining the process) has not been done, but then again, there has
>>> not been a need.
>> I agree that it is definitely necessary to talk to Geir about the 
>> submitting
>> a specification.
>>
>> Other JCP related actions of members like joining an Expert Group
>> are currently probably not dealt with in a very centralized manner
>> right now.
>> Maybe I am mistaken, but over time I had a good dozen people
>> representing the ASF on my JSRs and I doubt that they follow a
>> specific process to do that.
>>
>> As far as I understand the process off of http://www.apache.org/jcp/
>> people that are interested in representing the ASF should post to this
>> list.
>> If I grep through the information from http://www.jcp.org/ I can find
>> 47 JSRS with ASF Involvement [1] (some of them
>> are final and only in maintenance review)
>> I think this is quite an achievement.
>>
>> Is there a particular reason to only list 10 JSRs on
>> http://www.apache.org/jcp?
>> Are we aware of all the JSRs that the ASF is involved in?
>> Do we need to be?
>>
>> Maybe this should all branch into a separate discussion...
>>
>> regards,
>> david
>>
>> [1] List of JSRs with Apache Involvment
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=3
>> JSR 3: JavaTM Management Extensions (JMXTM) Specification
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=52
>> JSR 52: A Standard Tag Library for JavaServer PagesTM
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=53
>> JSR 53: JavaTM Servlet 2.3 and JavaServer PagesTM 1.2 Specifications
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=63
>> JSR 63: JavaTM API for XML Processing 1.1
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=96
>> JSR 96: JavaTM Daemons
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=99
>> JSR 99: Java Specification Participation Agreement
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=105
>> JSR 105: XML Digital Signature APIs
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=106
>> JSR 106: XML Digital Encryption APIs
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=107
>> JSR 107: JCACHE - Java Temporary Caching API
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=111
>> JSR 111: JavaTM Services Framework
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=127
>> JSR 127: JavaServer Faces
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=152
>> JSR 152: JavaServer PagesTM 2.0 Specification
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=154
>> JSR 154: JavaTM Servlet 2.4 Specification
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=167
>> JSR 167: JavaTM Portlet Specification
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=168
>> JSR 168: Portlet Specification
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=170
>> JSR 170: Content Repository for JavaTM technology API
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=171
>> JSR 171: Java Community ProcessSM (JCP) Program, version 2.5
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=173
>> JSR 173: Streaming API for XML
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=176
>> JSR 176: J2SETM 5.0 (Tiger) Release Contents
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=198
>> JSR 198: A Standard Extension API for Integrated Development Environments
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=208
>> JSR 208: JavaTM Business Integration (JBI)
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=212
>> JSR 212: Server API for Mobile Services: Messaging - SAMS: Messaging
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=215
>> JSR 215: Java Community ProcessSM version 2.6
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=220
>> JSR 220: Enterprise JavaBeansTM 3.0
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=241
>> JSR 241: The Groovy Programming Language
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=243
>> JSR 243: JavaTM Data Objects 2.0 - An Extension to the JDO specification
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=245
>> JSR 245: JavaServerTM Pages 2.1
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=252
>> JSR 252: JavaServer Faces 1.2
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=255
>> JSR 255: JavaTM Management Extensions (JMXTM) Specification, version 2.0
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=261
>> JSR 261: JavaTM API for XML Web Services Addressing (JAX-WSA)
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=265
>> JSR 265: API for Utilizing Web Services Policy
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=270
>> JSR 270: JavaTM SE 6 Release Contents
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=274
>> JSR 274: The BeanShell Scripting Language
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=277
>> JSR 277: JavaTM Module System
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=279
>> JSR 279: Service Connection API for JavaTM  ME
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=283
>> JSR 283: Content Repository for JavaTM Technology API Version 2.0
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=286
>> JSR 286: Portlet Specification 2.0
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=289
>> JSR 289: SIP Servlet v1.1
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=291
>> JSR 291: Dynamic Component Support for JavaTM SE
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=299
>> JSR 299: Web Beans
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=301
>> JSR 301: Portlet Bridge Specification for JavaServerTM Faces
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=306
>> JSR 306: Towards a new version of the JCP
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=309
>> JSR 309: Media Server Control API
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=310
>> JSR 310: Date and Time API
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=312
>> JSR 312: JavaTM Business Integration 2.0 (JBI 2.0)
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=314
>> JSR 314: JavaServer Faces 2.0
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=315
>> JSR 315: JavaTM Servlet 3.0 Specification
> 
> Craig Russell
> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
> 

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