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From: "Dion Gillard" <dion@apache.org>
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Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Suspend ASF Java development for one week
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Seems like a WOFTAE to me.

If I wanted to explore Mono, Ruby, Erlang etc, I'd already be doing it.

It seems that it would be punishing the ASF communities (committers, users
etc) for Sun's actions, and sending a message that the ASF much like Big
Brother (the novel incarnation, not the tv).

On 8/12/07, Stephen Colebourne <scolebourne@joda.org> wrote:
>
> Steve Loughran wrote:
> > But, Actions do speak louder than words sometimes [snip]
> > There's not much we can do in response, other than cut
> > back on java coding. Accordingly, after I make the next product release
> > tomorrow, I will stop writing a single line of Java code for the rest of
> > august. Because there are other things out there, and the one that
> > interests me has the name Erlang. Time to start the first erlang-related
> > work at apache, I think
>
> This comment, got me thinking... what if the ASF suspended Java
> development for one week (or even a month). It could be either a
> voluntary personal decision by each committer, or more strongly enforced.
>
> It would definitely get press attention, and would be a valid next step
> response from our side. It might also make Sun begin to realise that
> they lose if the ASF walks away from the JCP and Java.
>
> Perhaps the time could be used for the developers not working on Java to
> have a mini-hackathon in Scala or Erlang or Ruby...
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Stephen
>



-- 
dIon Gillard
Rule #131 of Acquisition: Information is Profit.

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Seems like a WOFTAE to me.<br><br>If I wanted to explore Mono, Ruby, Erlang etc, I&#39;d already be doing it.<br><br>It seems that it would be punishing the ASF communities (committers, users etc) for Sun&#39;s actions, and sending a message that the ASF much like Big Brother (the novel incarnation, not the tv).
<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/12/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Stephen Colebourne</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:scolebourne@joda.org">scolebourne@joda.org</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Steve Loughran wrote:<br>&gt; But, Actions do speak louder than words sometimes [snip]<br> &gt; There&#39;s not much we can do in response, other than cut<br>&gt; back on java coding. Accordingly, after I make the next product release
<br>&gt; tomorrow, I will stop writing a single line of Java code for the rest of<br>&gt; august. Because there are other things out there, and the one that<br>&gt; interests me has the name Erlang. Time to start the first erlang-related
<br>&gt; work at apache, I think<br><br>This comment, got me thinking... what if the ASF suspended Java<br>development for one week (or even a month). It could be either a<br>voluntary personal decision by each committer, or more strongly enforced.
<br><br>It would definitely get press attention, and would be a valid next step<br>response from our side. It might also make Sun begin to realise that<br>they lose if the ASF walks away from the JCP and Java.<br><br>Perhaps the time could be used for the developers not working on Java to
<br>have a mini-hackathon in Scala or Erlang or Ruby...<br><br>Any thoughts?<br><br>Stephen<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>dIon Gillard<br>Rule #131 of Acquisition: Information is Profit.

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