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From "Aaron Mulder" <ammul...@alumni.princeton.edu>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Suspend ASF Java development for one week
Date Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:18:31 GMT
Besides, after work with Ruby a bit, who would want to come *back* to Java?  :)

Thanks,
       Aaron

On 8/12/07, Danese Cooper <danese@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not that anybody asked me, but I think they WANT us to stop ASF Java
> development, no?  A publicized cease code would seem to send the
> message that they've won.
>
> Danese
>
> On Aug 12, 2007, at 7:03 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
> >
> > On Aug 12, 2007, at 6:01 AM, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> >
> >> Steve Loughran wrote:
> >>> But, Actions do speak louder than words sometimes [snip]
> >> > There's not much we can do in response, other than cut
> >>> back on java coding. Accordingly, after I make the next product
> >>> release tomorrow, I will stop writing a single line of Java code
> >>> for the rest of august. Because there are other things out there,
> >>> and the one that interests me has the name Erlang. Time to start
> >>> the first erlang-related work at apache, I think
> >>
> >> This comment, got me thinking... what if the ASF suspended Java
> >> development for one week (or even a month). It could be either a
> >> voluntary personal decision by each committer, or more strongly
> >> enforced.
> >>
> >> It would definitely get press attention, and would be a valid next
> >> step response from our side. It might also make Sun begin to
> >> realise that they lose if the ASF walks away from the JCP and Java.
> >>
> >> Perhaps the time could be used for the developers not working on
> >> Java to have a mini-hackathon in Scala or Erlang or Ruby...
> >>
> >> Any thoughts?
> >
> > I dunno.  This seems like cutting of our nose...   Java is "ours"
> > as much as it is "theirs".  IMO, Sun is trying to re-position Java
> > as theirs, something they are allowing us to help them with, rather
> > than something that we've all come to collectively own over the
> > last 7 years or so through our contributions.  So I don't want to
> > do anything that adds any support to that idea....
> >
> > geir
> >
> >
>
>

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