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From Danese Cooper <dan...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Suspend ASF Java development for one week
Date Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:21:54 GMT
Not that anybody asked me, but I think they WANT us to stop ASF Java  
development, no?  A publicized cease code would seem to send the  
message that they've won.

Danese

On Aug 12, 2007, at 7:03 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

>
> On Aug 12, 2007, at 6:01 AM, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
>
>> Steve Loughran wrote:
>>> But, Actions do speak louder than words sometimes [snip]
>> > There's not much we can do in response, other than cut
>>> back on java coding. Accordingly, after I make the next product  
>>> release tomorrow, I will stop writing a single line of Java code  
>>> for the rest of august. Because there are other things out there,  
>>> and the one that interests me has the name Erlang. Time to start  
>>> the first erlang-related work at apache, I think
>>
>> This comment, got me thinking... what if the ASF suspended Java  
>> development for one week (or even a month). It could be either a  
>> voluntary personal decision by each committer, or more strongly  
>> enforced.
>>
>> It would definitely get press attention, and would be a valid next  
>> step response from our side. It might also make Sun begin to  
>> realise that they lose if the ASF walks away from the JCP and Java.
>>
>> Perhaps the time could be used for the developers not working on  
>> Java to have a mini-hackathon in Scala or Erlang or Ruby...
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>
> I dunno.  This seems like cutting of our nose...   Java is "ours"  
> as much as it is "theirs".  IMO, Sun is trying to re-position Java  
> as theirs, something they are allowing us to help them with, rather  
> than something that we've all come to collectively own over the  
> last 7 years or so through our contributions.  So I don't want to  
> do anything that adds any support to that idea....
>
> geir
>
>


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