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From "Andrew C. Oliver" <acoli...@buni.org>
Subject Re: Looks like Sun responded to the Open Letter
Date Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:11:13 GMT
Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
> As no one answered you: The TCK licensing terms allow you to develop
> something derived from the OpenJDK codebase and released under GPLv2
> (nothing else). You get the TCK without any support and if your project
> manages to pass the TCK, you are allowed to call it "J2SE 6" and use all
> the Java trademarks. The TCK puts additional restrictions on your code
> base (which IMHO is cutting it really close with the "no additional
> restrictions" term of the GPL v2), that say "your code *must* be
> substantially derived from OpenJDK".
>
> You are *not* allowed to redistribute the TCK or to change the TCK in
> any way. You don't get the source code of the TCK. You are not allowed
> to discuss TCK results with anyone, unless that other party has also
> access to the TCK under the same licensing terms (effectively blocking
> out any discussion / conversation between e.g. OpenJDK projects and
> other efforts (either commercial or (hypothetical) Apache Harmony).
>
>   
What a great way to run an open source project!  Apache should 
definitely not suspend its membership and support for such "open" 
standards...if by open we mean "not open". 
> 	Best regards
> 		Henning
>
>
>
> On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 11:32 -0400, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>   
>> I'm not clear on this...are the TCKs themselves being made available 
>> under GPL or just being made "available" to those who use GPL?
>>
>>
>> Sam Ruby wrote:
>>     
>>> On 8/9/07, Geir Magnusson Jr. <geir@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> On Aug 9, 2007, at 5:30 AM, Steve Loughran wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> Matt Hogstrom wrote:
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> http://news.com.com/Sun+lowers+barriers+to+open-source+Java/
>>>>>> 2100-7344_3-6201440.html?part=rss&tag=2547-1_3-0-5&subj=news
But
>>>>>> the new program doesn't extend to Apache Harmony, a rival effort
>>>>>> to build a version of Java Standard Edition. Geir Magnusson, a
>>>>>> Harmony leader, had called on Sun in April to liberalize the
>>>>>> compatibility kit terms.
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>> I wouldn't consider this a response to the open letter.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Neither would I, but I would consider the following to be a response:
>>>
>>> http://blogs.sun.com/richgreen/entry/score_another_for_clarity_and
>>>
>>> - Sam Ruby
>>>   
>>>       
>>     


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