Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jcp-open-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 7233 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2007 18:15:56 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Jul 2007 18:15:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 31707 invoked by uid 500); 2 Jul 2007 18:15:57 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-jcp-open-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 31603 invoked by uid 500); 2 Jul 2007 18:15:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact jcp-open-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: jcp-open@apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list jcp-open@apache.org Received: (qmail 31592 invoked by uid 99); 2 Jul 2007 18:15:57 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:15:57 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (herse.apache.org: 216.86.168.178 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of geir@pobox.com) Received: from [216.86.168.178] (HELO mxout-03.mxes.net) (216.86.168.178) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:15:53 -0700 Received: from [10.6.13.61] (unknown [216.174.90.9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A60451943 for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2007 14:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <5c902b9e0707021044g5cdb6171mc65a36bc0a9bce4e@mail.gmail.com> References: <46884181.7080206@sun.com> <3d4032300707020408u3aec9fc9v5234a423cf9fecd@mail.gmail.com> <871wfqgaof.fsf@gemini.sunstarsys.com> <3d4032300707020739w6db55b13r1e66fd73691c2182@mail.gmail.com> <9B5B40F3-F49E-4EB7-BC71-B71EA2B3FD43@pobox.com> <6BADF62A-17CD-4572-B022-12A9E4829CE9@pobox.com> <5c902b9e0707021044g5cdb6171mc65a36bc0a9bce4e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <812F8D50-7486-4642-9AEE-C220116ECAA5@pobox.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." Subject: Re: servlet 3.0 (JSR-315) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 14:15:31 -0400 To: jcp-open@apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Jul 2, 2007, at 1:44 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > On 7/2/07, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: >> This is only the kickoff vote for the JSR. It isn't the final vote. >> That's 18 months away. > > Can you please back up and provide us JCP-ignoramuses with the context > of what this vote means and what our options are. Voting 'yes' means > that we approve for this EG to start working? Are there any other > votes that we'll have along the way? Yes, this is the "We think that improving the servlet spec is a good idea" vote. After this, there is a "community draft" ballot (a checkpoint on how we think things are going) and then a final approval ballot. > >> We'd be saying "no, we don't think this JSR should even start, >> because you haven't satisfied our previously unstated requirements >> about how we think that EGs will work in public, and how our yet-as- >> undecided policy towards NDAs will play out..." > > I totally grok that. Hence, I'd either recommend 'yes' or 'abstain' - > probably leaning towards abstaining for *all* votes until we have the > policy hashed out. -- justin