Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jcp-open-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 74431 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2007 18:37:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 31 Jul 2007 18:37:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 96792 invoked by uid 500); 31 Jul 2007 18:37:42 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-jcp-open-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 96585 invoked by uid 500); 31 Jul 2007 18:37:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact jcp-open-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: jcp-open@apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list jcp-open@apache.org Delivered-To: moderator for jcp-open@apache.org Received: (qmail 77153 invoked by uid 99); 31 Jul 2007 18:24:55 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of SRS0=9UeO=M5=apache.org=rolandw@srs.kundenserver.de designates 212.227.126.174 as permitted sender) Message-ID: <46AF7E5D.7050602@apache.org> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:24:29 +0200 From: Roland Weber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.5) Gecko/20070730 SeaMonkey/1.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jcp-open@apache.org Subject: Re: JSR-317 and JSR-318 Vote Today References: <11A2D4C6-4D44-4BAC-932A-D3708D7EB51B@pobox.com> <436D4FFC-F77F-42E1-9CF1-1085A4E3253E@SUN.com> <63E537F7-FFBB-494F-9DB5-FE30D5F42070@SUN.com> <3DD6CA88-4610-479C-B916-6BE864384C1A@gbiv.com> <46AE9976.40302@buni.org> In-Reply-To: <46AE9976.40302@buni.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19wQoQFRYhv9FVQ6iq4SDtJCQ3GGQ2UUpzWlw0 bjNRNyjm9jV4rf/VymZ1w3FajdWu9SWofRjpShMEX0RXhwUZQx 6MGBJhDPJTBJ1HECJg5YydXt0Zsz0OL X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > why not just go > ahead and do that. . Change the Apache license so that it is > incompatible with open source but compatible with Sun's terms and the > REAL JCP? It is a legitimate option. Yes it is. Anyone is free to do exactly that, as long as the result is not called an Apache license. The ASF should not lend it's name for that. > The majority of the people on > those projects care more about being part of the JCP and such than > actually being open source. Sourceforge is their friend. Apache stands for communities that build open source software which is licensed under the Apache License. Not GPL, MPL, CC, BSD, or something that is not quite open and not quite Apache. cheers, Roland