Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jcp-open-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 92107 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2007 16:45:27 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 4 Jul 2007 16:45:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 23154 invoked by uid 500); 4 Jul 2007 16:45:29 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-jcp-open-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 23050 invoked by uid 500); 4 Jul 2007 16:45:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact jcp-open-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: jcp-open@apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list jcp-open@apache.org Received: (qmail 23032 invoked by uid 99); 4 Jul 2007 16:45:29 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 09:45:29 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [66.51.199.94] (HELO mail9.dslextreme.com) (66.51.199.94) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 09:45:25 -0700 Received: (qmail 19090 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2007 16:45:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (66.51.196.164) by mail9.dslextreme.com with (RC4-MD5 encrypted) SMTP; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 09:45:04 -0700 Message-ID: <468BCE91.2070204@dslextreme.com> Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 09:45:05 -0700 From: Ralph Goers Reply-To: rgoers@apache.org User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jcp-open@apache.org Subject: Re: jcp-open Digest of: get.703_703 References: <1183533033.40132.ezmlm@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <1183533033.40132.ezmlm@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Subject: > Inaction on Java SE JSR? (was: [Draft] New ASF/JCP Policies) > From: > "William A. Rowe, Jr." > Date: > Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:24:54 -0500 > To: > jcp-open@apache.org > > To: > jcp-open@apache.org > > > Isn't it time to formally withdraw from that JSR, if we still sit on it? > Initially the contested Java SE JSR, and later any related/later JSR's of > the same technology by the same spec lead, and finally - every JSR who's > spec lead is in persistent violation of the mutually agreed-upon terms > of the JSPA. This seems only rational, no? > > I think I might take a different approach to this problem. I would suggest that the only way to really solve this is to modify the Apache license in a manner similar to the GPL. I would do something like add a new termination section such as below. This license would terminate Sun's right to use any Apache software. 10. Termination - Your rights under this license will automatically terminate should you own or control any specification, process or other kind of work which is made publicly available under any public license, but which the Apache Software Foundation is prohibited from implementing due to license, patent, or other restrictions that are incompatible with this license and are directly under your control. Ralph