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Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 07:22:46 -0400
From: "Davanum Srinivas" <davanum@gmail.com>
Reply-To: dims@apache.org
To: jcp-open@apache.org
Subject: Re: Real world example of TCK have's vs have-not's
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Well, the only person who can be the gatekeeper to this mailing list
is the VP of JCP who knows who has signed the NDA. Operational issue..

-- dims

On 7/14/07, Henri Yandell <bayard@apache.org> wrote:
> So.... make a jcp-tck and start talking on there?
>
> Why can't people who have signed the NDA with Apache not talk to each other?
>
> Hen
>
> On 7/11/07, Jeff Genender <jgenender@apache.org> wrote:
> > Yep...this is a perfect case-in-point where a central TCK/JCP authority
> > for would be helpful across projects.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> > > Not to mention cross project cooperation. Axis2 folks don't know
> > > what's happening inside the cxf jcp sandbox and geronimo jcp sandbox.
> > > Right now the only person who knows all 3 is Mr Jarek :) as he is
> > > committer on all 3 project *and* has access to both the J2EE and JAXWS
> > > TCK's :) :)
> > >
> > > -- dims
> > >
> > > On 7/11/07, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Well, this is a very particular case in that the test HAS been changed in
> > >> the latest version of the TCK.
> > >>
> > >> However, it shows another issue:  CXF did challenge the tests in
> > >> question, but were then "scolded" by Sun for not using the latest TCK.
> > >> However, we didn't know there was a newer TCK.    (GERONIMOTCK-36 for
> > >> those with access)
> > >>
> > >> In this case, not only do they not know about the newer TCK, but they
> > >> also didn't know we already tried challenging it.   Part of that is
> > >> because all the communications and stuff around the TCK has to be done
> > >> behind closed doors and on private lists and in private JIRA's and such.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Dan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wednesday 11 July 2007 18:33, Henri Yandell wrote:
> > >> > All I'm seeing here is that someone is committing a fix based on a TCK
> > >> > test. Where's the have not?
> > >> >
> > >> > On 7/11/07, Davanum Srinivas <davanum@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > > FWIW, http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&revision=555276
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Davanum Srinivas :: http://davanum.wordpress.com
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> J. Daniel Kulp
> > >> Principal Engineer
> > >> IONA
> > >> P: 781-902-8727    C: 508-380-7194
> > >> daniel.kulp@iona.com
> > >> http://www.dankulp.com/blog
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>


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Davanum Srinivas :: http://davanum.wordpress.com