Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jcp-open-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 54717 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2007 20:13:22 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Jul 2007 20:13:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 47921 invoked by uid 500); 2 Jul 2007 20:13:24 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-jcp-open-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 47741 invoked by uid 500); 2 Jul 2007 20:13:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact jcp-open-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: jcp-open@apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list jcp-open@apache.org Received: (qmail 47730 invoked by uid 99); 2 Jul 2007 20:13:24 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 02 Jul 2007 13:13:24 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (herse.apache.org: 216.86.168.178 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of geir@pobox.com) Received: from [216.86.168.178] (HELO mxout-03.mxes.net) (216.86.168.178) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 02 Jul 2007 13:13:20 -0700 Received: from [166.217.252.19] (unknown [166.217.252.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE21451946 for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <468959D3.1040204@rowe-clan.net> References: <3d4032300705140644r4bc3664fx1a2ad34b139806be@mail.gmail.com> <87zm2ls6v4.fsf@gemini.sunstarsys.com> <4682A894.6050006@apache.org> <46856A96.4020304@apache.org> <468959D3.1040204@rowe-clan.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0FC5CF0E-D2FD-4C6B-94F9-6834A121E39A@pobox.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." Subject: Re: Inaction on Java SE JSR? Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:09:58 -0400 To: jcp-open@apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Jul 2, 2007, at 4:02 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: >> >> and the response from JIS : >> >> http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan/entry/one_plus_one_is_fifty >> >> My favorite quote : >> >> "we have no intention of holding anything back, or pulling patent >> nonsense." > > Mine... > > "Did the Linux community hurt Sun? No, not a bit. It was the companies > that leveraged their work. I draw a very sharp distinction - even if > our competition is conveniently reckless. They like to paint the > battle > as Sun vs. the community, and it's not. Companies compete, communities > simply fracture." > > which is much more relevant to the ASF. I'm not sure I see it. The Java SE TCK issue is all about necessary IP flows. geir