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From "Geir Magnusson Jr." <g...@pobox.com>
Subject Re: JSR-317 and JSR-318 Vote Today
Date Tue, 31 Jul 2007 03:14:02 GMT
I'm having trouble reconciling your point of view about open source  
standards and development of same (e.g. NDAs for TCK) and your other  
point of view about open source standards and development of same  
(e.g. licenses for TCK)


On Jul 30, 2007, at 10:07 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:

>> We don't need to ask.  It is a requirement of the JSPA, which Sun has
>> signed with every participant in the JCP, that the Spec Lead must
>> provide the TCK under terms that do not prevent an open source
>> implementation.  The terms that Sun provided to us would have  
>> required
>> a change to our license that is incompatible with open source.
> Rather than taking more basically ineffective actions...why not  
> just go ahead and do that. . Change the Apache license so that it  
> is incompatible with open source but compatible with Sun's terms  
> and the REAL JCP?  It is a legitimate option.  The majority of the  
> people on those projects care more about being part of the JCP and  
> such than actually being open source.
> -Andy
>> ....Roy
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