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From "Andrew C. Oliver" <acoli...@buni.org>
Subject Re: JSR-316 Vote
Date Thu, 19 Jul 2007 07:49:45 GMT
Yeah I had my concerns about this approach or at least how it would 
appear.  I guess If we were going to make a statement vote then it ought 
to have been on one with the apparent issue.  However, the veracity of 
Mr. Barker's comments are unwarranted.  If the JCP generates non-open 
source licensable JSRs and continues to operate under unnecessary 
secrecy, then I do agree with him that Apache should withdraw and look 
at coming up with a standards board more to its liking.  It continues to 
seem inappropriate to have secret closed-community open source 
development @ Apache.


Bill Barker wrote:
> And now we look like the FSF, playing politics with our vote (which didn't 
> change anything, since 316 was overwhelmingly adopted 14-1 with one 
> didn't-vote) :(.  It is clear that we have allies (at least until now) with 
> IBM, Intel, and RedHat from the comments, so could somebody explain to me 
> why we need to make this a p*ssing contest (and over a three-year old JSR, 
> that is already practically obsolete, and that we praised to the skies three 
> years ago)?  If the ASF can't start acting like resposible adults on the 
> JCP, then it is probably better that we withdraw.  As it is, we look like a 
> little kid jumping up and down saying that we are 'going to hold our breath 
> until we die' :(.
>> geir

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