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From "Andrew C. Oliver" <acoli...@buni.org>
Subject Re: TSFKAJ
Date Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:31:30 GMT
I bet that the AS/400 has one kick ass sound card!

...and yet it's JVM presumably passes all the tests ;-)


Steve Loughran wrote:
> Interesting. Now, if you want to keep maintenance costs down you want 
> to get your fixes back in to the main branch, and no doubt sun would 
> like to take on the bugfixes that get proxy support working on kde 
> desktops, etc. But nobody likes to take patches from random 
> developers. Patches that say "Here's my fix to the proxy code, it 
> passes all tests" you'd be much happier. Having a completely open test 
> suite makes it much easier, especially if it comes with a set of 
> VMware images to emulate reference platforms (or the OSS ones, anyway)
> Looking at the IcedTea release, it appears they are stubbing out the 
> stuff that is restricted: sound, snmp and bits of AWT. For server-side 
> JREs, you probably dont need a functional sound subsystem, and its 
> pretty hard to test too -I suspect that the TCK doesn't, not unless it 
> requires you to connect audio out to audio in so that it can verify 
> round tripping, and even then you can't easily distinguish between a 
> loopback in software, a noisy loopback in software and real sound 
> hardware. AWT is testable, and the TCK may have something there, but 
> you are up against the problem of verifying acceptability of different 
> rendering algorithms. Bit-for-bit image comparision works for 
> regression testing on identical hardware, but not for testing 
> different renderers, which, on windows, can mean different display 
> drivers.
> -steve

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