Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jcp-open-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 61879 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2007 16:52:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 29 Jun 2007 16:52:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 22318 invoked by uid 500); 29 Jun 2007 16:51:40 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-jcp-open-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 22175 invoked by uid 500); 29 Jun 2007 16:51:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact jcp-open-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: jcp-open@apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list jcp-open@apache.org Received: (qmail 22087 invoked by uid 99); 29 Jun 2007 16:51:39 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:51:39 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: error (herse.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [216.86.168.178] (HELO mxout-03.mxes.net) (216.86.168.178) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:51:35 -0700 Received: from [10.113.50.138] (unknown [80.187.208.31]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD6951944 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:50:48 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <510143ac0706281357r21f29b64i88806d3f9f46a650@mail.gmail.com> References: <510143ac0706281357r21f29b64i88806d3f9f46a650@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6C27FC37-A45C-4133-A40A-3F51A6ACBBA2@pobox.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." Subject: Re: Reason for Sun's FOU restriction Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:27:11 +0200 To: jcp-open@apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Jun 28, 2007, at 10:57 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not sure if this question is stupied or was asked and answered > already before, but do we know (for sure) the reason why Sun wants or > needs to restrict the "field of use" of compliant Java > implementations? > > I can think of two main reasons: > > 1) They want to protect their revenue from Java in embedded systems. > > 2) They see software patents as applicable only when the software in > question is an integral part of a physical system, and use the FOU as > a way to avoid hitting the patent minefield. Software is a patent minefield. Passing the TCK grants the necessary IP from the EG members - it doesn't confer any protection from infringing patents held by others. So I'm going to go with #1. geir