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From Jeff Genender <jgenen...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [Draft] New ASF/JCP Policies
Date Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:50:20 GMT
Is there some additional discussion that has ensued after the
open-letter?  Has there been any direct contact with Sun regarding the
JCK, other than the open letter?

Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> Are we going too far to the other side of the pendulum?
> 
> Not accepting new NDAs for existing projects could be a roadblock to
> building communities.  I think it would be more appropriate to limit ASF
> use of TCK's that are restrictive beyond what we find acceptable as far
> as restrictions on consumers down the line.
> 
> One question I have on the FOU restriction for the Java TCK is what
> would happen if we did certify Harmony with the TCK under its current
> terms?  I would assume that this means that people that download a
> certified binary would have to be shot if they used it in a Kiosk.  But
> what if someone grabbed the code from a particular release and built it
> themselves.  Are they under the terms of the license?  I would think
> presumably not as the certification is on a binary and not an svn rev
> number.  IANAL so I don't know the ramifications of this scenario.
> 
> I guess my point is we should evaluate what TCKs and projects we
> participate in based on their individual merits and not do a sweeping
> non-NDA position going forward.  I think the license is freedom of
> expression and if folks have limitations in them we don't like we don't
> have to work with the IP.
> 
> 
> 
> On May 14, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
> 
>> As of yet, we have not received acceptable licensing terms for JCK
>> needed for Harmony certification, nor have we received an official
>> response to the open letter[1].
>>
>> It is time for the ASF to stop supporting activities which are
>> fundamentally inconsistent with our continued operations as a
>> non-profit 501(c)3 charity.
>>
>> It is time to draft a new set of JCP policies.  Here's a draft:
>>
>>  http://people.apache.org/~rubys/jcp.html
>>
>> Feedback welcome.
>>
>> - Sam Ruby
>>
>> [1] http://www.apache.org/jcp/sunopenletter.html
>>

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