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From "Alan D. Cabrera" <...@toolazydogs.com>
Subject Re: JSR 291 : OSGi
Date Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:15:34 GMT
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote, On 3/2/2006 9:05 AM:

>
>
> Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>
>> Henri Yandell wrote, On 3/1/2006 1:08 PM:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>>>
>>>> Today a new JSR was officially announced  :
>>>>
>>>> http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=291
>>>>
>>>> As you can see, this is for OSGi.
>>>>
>>>> I've told IBM that we support the JSR, and will participate in the 
>>>> Expert Group.
>>>>
>>>> Please volunteer if you are interested in representing the ASF on 
>>>> this EG.
>>>>
>>>> I've CC-ed felix-dev.  Please don't crosspost, but discuss on 
>>>> jcp-open@apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Have you heard anything back from Felix?
>>>
>>> There seems to be a general philosophical discussion happening 
>>> between yourself and Dain each time over how the ASF should approach 
>>> JCP issues - which to a large extent seem to boil down to a 'Deny 
>>> All - then Allow' or a 'Allow All - then Deny' pair of firewall like 
>>> philosophies.
>>>
>>> Other than that though, not seeing much discussion.
>>
>>
>>
>> FWIW, I've been keeping quiet because Dain's arguments reflect my 
>> sentiments.  I am more than a bit incredulous about the ability of 
>> two separate standards bodies to somehow cooperate on this already 
>> completed Java spec; Geir's analogy w/ Groovy does not hold. 
>
>
> Huh?  I never tried to make an analogy between Groovy and OSGi.  I 
> mentioned Groovy as an example of the way we'd like to see JSRs done, 
> right?


Yep, but the Groovy community's proposal to the JCP is not the same as 
what OSGi is proposing.

>> I still do not understand what is the value add to coming to the 
>> JCP.  I admire Geir's optimism but the idea seems so wacky, that I 
>> remain extremely skeptical.  I hope to be proven wrong.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alan
>>
>>
>>
>>



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