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From Geir Magnusson Jr <g...@pobox.com>
Subject Re: JSR 291 : OSGi
Date Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:05:08 GMT


Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> Henri Yandell wrote, On 3/1/2006 1:08 PM:
> 
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>>
>>> Today a new JSR was officially announced  :
>>>
>>> http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=291
>>>
>>> As you can see, this is for OSGi.
>>>
>>> I've told IBM that we support the JSR, and will participate in the 
>>> Expert Group.
>>>
>>> Please volunteer if you are interested in representing the ASF on 
>>> this EG.
>>>
>>> I've CC-ed felix-dev.  Please don't crosspost, but discuss on 
>>> jcp-open@apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>> Have you heard anything back from Felix?
>>
>> There seems to be a general philosophical discussion happening between 
>> yourself and Dain each time over how the ASF should approach JCP 
>> issues - which to a large extent seem to boil down to a 'Deny All - 
>> then Allow' or a 'Allow All - then Deny' pair of firewall like 
>> philosophies.
>>
>> Other than that though, not seeing much discussion.
> 
> 
> FWIW, I've been keeping quiet because Dain's arguments reflect my 
> sentiments.  I am more than a bit incredulous about the ability of two 
> separate standards bodies to somehow cooperate on this already completed 
> Java spec; Geir's analogy w/ Groovy does not hold. 

Huh?  I never tried to make an analogy between Groovy and OSGi.  I 
mentioned Groovy as an example of the way we'd like to see JSRs done, right?

> I still do not 
> understand what is the value add to coming to the JCP.  I admire Geir's 
> optimism but the idea seems so wacky, that I remain extremely 
> skeptical.  I hope to be proven wrong.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Alan
> 
> 
> 
> 

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