Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jcp-open-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 97288 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2005 18:43:28 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 9 Dec 2005 18:43:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 60633 invoked by uid 500); 9 Dec 2005 18:43:27 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-jcp-open-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 60579 invoked by uid 500); 9 Dec 2005 18:43:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact jcp-open-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: jcp-open@apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list jcp-open@apache.org Received: (qmail 60570 invoked by uid 99); 9 Dec 2005 18:43:26 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 10:43:26 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [64.74.244.71] (HELO chi.mobile-health-diary.com) (64.74.244.71) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 10:43:26 -0800 Received: (qmail 21042 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2005 18:44:31 -0000 Received: from 166-220-072-179.mobile.mymmode.com (HELO ?10.40.160.136?) (geir@166.220.72.179) by b014.internal.mobile-health-diary.com with SMTP; 9 Dec 2005 18:44:31 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: References: <206167CB-4C08-4C71-8134-6C9EF2604A87@gmail.com> <435FC0C8.1010908@sun.com> <32D08AAE-FE99-431F-B08D-3611F94AD20A@apache.org> <1130366399.25786.209.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1131392174.18047.209.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4380FB68.6030403@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." Subject: Re: About joining JSR 279 and 280 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 13:43:07 -0500 To: jcp-open@apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Nov 21, 2005, at 7:49 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote: > On Nov 20, 2005, at 5:15 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > >> On Nov 20, 2005, at 5:40 PM, Brett Porter wrote: >> >>>> Sometimes we're invited to be a part, and I say yes and be the >>>> placeholder to let things move forward, and when someone shows >>>> up, that person becomes the rep. When someone indicates they >>>> want to be a part of a JSR, I notify the JCP that the ASF will >>>> be on the EG, and the person that indicated they wished to >>>> participate is the rep. There's paperwork that people have to >>>> go through, and me being the placeholder doesn't put any work >>>> on me, but just lets the JCP wheels turn faster for us. >>> >>> Ok, this clearly isn't what happened with 277. If it is just a >>> one off >>> as you've suggested, then that's fine - I just want to make sure >>> we're >>> learning some lessons and are set up correctly so it doesn't >>> happen again. >> >> 277 was, IMO, a one off, one we won't repeat. > > Another one off to mention is JEE 5. I have been asking to be on > that since July and only since this discussion got going have I > seen any progress. At the same time, I asked about EJB 3 since one > of the co-spec leads asked me to join to replace our dormant > representative Jeremy Boynes, and again I have only seen progress > since these resent discussions got going. EJB 3 is a different > case, since we had a rep that went dormant, but it is a similar > problem because Geir is the only one that can make the change. My > participation in EJB has become some sort of internal Sun issue, > but I really don't know where it stands since all of that > administrative communication is private. There have been updates. I really don't want to hash this out here, but I'll note that your attitude towards the ASF has changed in a very positive way very recently (something on the order of 180 degrees). geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 geirm@apache.org