Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-infrastructure-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-infrastructure-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 52CF711CBE for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 01:00:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 87761 invoked by uid 500); 13 Aug 2014 01:00:26 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-infrastructure-dev-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 87635 invoked by uid 500); 13 Aug 2014 01:00:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact infrastructure-dev-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: infrastructure-dev@apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list infrastructure-dev@apache.org Received: (qmail 87621 invoked by uid 99); 13 Aug 2014 01:00:25 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 01:00:25 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=10 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of joe_schaefer@yahoo.com designates 98.138.91.97 as permitted sender) Received: from [98.138.91.97] (HELO nm4-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.91.97) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 01:00:19 +0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=aAJNxZJVPb/bOz9xc3xWypt07aBqmZO4WVv0AdDOq2xcXIjmTz3IiNlt5WPz5LUSqIW3MBkYwQFi77AAXi61On9aWtzfYDqr9ZkIOVa37tbk3V2j4tc80nRpkCuksGfPUk/CrCsFK8kR5ihlxP265shbr3C2pbfygFFzkEL6v+YviooUG3xumEDtMr8RMNGxZtLAUqqW8sDUSw9XxMwWawvHhnTXhM2u2wShwhBQ0Dzm3C3sWi4b372y4DXnPPLLDTXy5QLVDDuNMLyp8iexy16rhhQPg/yu7vyOPDRHEQlKpvpCvf/lO44htP1QcVrrB1aG9VMLZbMONJZ8gvRlDw==; Received: from [98.138.100.113] by nm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2014 00:53:52 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.61] by tm104.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2014 00:53:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp212.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2014 00:53:52 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 699850.21010.bm@smtp212.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 0RtsFk8VM1l8RtciK9NfWTm57zNkNmpEU89MIUxnUQX2AKL qdx0k6B6XHSNOrbMbeywfkvZ2gZeVZGuBiUzW1EKyLdor7bgpM1oSyKEIvXi bzY.fzLj3nbEL4a.Mg_D4XYzMG4NHGT__EgEV2las73ZFJLB.HXaIUQQKZgc vsbNOVwzpB3lRVfWnXR6KtbmCGS8zj0iOI4V1_w_W0I2JYPuveIUAN5LiQH0 dvg5fSkUrtLrsMNQGy6oKgEAq_UZmXjfWejJFOmxmmwiksZ0IgALnxcRkWHq Gf78FhwQyZT55BQWaJaAsykTaLMSkD9zAj6BH3pxzKdxZ3N.benYk8sDt64J BYztyUyeE3GprDZQna4xkvIK30t438FMMpE0JZi7gPJDAFk217BMPemWRzun E4W6y7w.XZJJNQ.7mZRZBq.Ym1aPa3.m_NfTtRd4MRcOt2BCKZ9_umFxEzXT 9N02ScHDqAAsl6pmZoxSi5204cdv4Z60q0GrrENWqqjCz4CYHinbJtI1Tb.Q pKm0ABKRvC3aQhv336USwEhVvCyNIShFk X-Yahoo-SMTP: QDlDAnmswBC.bNldBIBkpZHKbHoL830igw-- References: <60429CFC-932B-42BF-A46E-60F8D3EFAEB4@pc-tony.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <65C50E37-23EC-4AF3-BC92-4645CE128476@yahoo.com> Cc: "joel.pearson@ipaustralia.gov.au" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D257) From: Joseph Schaefer Subject: Re: Nabble Archive emails to MLs rejected due to SPF check Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:53:51 -0400 To: "infrastructure-dev@apache.org" X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org The problem with Nabble is not purely Nabble's fault - as I have said severa= l times now Nabble uses the user's inbound address instead of a Nabble addre= ss because we insisted on it. Now what Nabble needs to do for us is to rewrite those addresses using SRS, w= hich ezmlm supports. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 12, 2014, at 1:03 PM, David Nalley wrote: >=20 >> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Robert Metzger wr= ote: >> Thank you for the fast response. >> I understand that this check is there to protect from phishing / spam >> mails. Let me explain my reasoning ... >=20 > So the problem isn't with whitelisting Nabble; the problem is that > we'd have to disable SPF checks. The owners of those domains have > configured SPF to not allow third parties to send messages that appear > to be originating from those domains. >=20 > I appreciate that users want to communicate with projects, and think > thats a great thing; something I highly encourage. However, I think > that the onus is on Nabble to figure out how to not have issues with > domains that enforce SPF for their mail, not for scores of places to > make exceptions for them. >=20 > --David