Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-infrastructure-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-infrastructure-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3520A117B2 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 20:04:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 97875 invoked by uid 500); 12 Jun 2014 20:04:35 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-infrastructure-dev-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 97739 invoked by uid 500); 12 Jun 2014 20:04:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact infrastructure-dev-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: infrastructure-dev@apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list infrastructure-dev@apache.org Received: (qmail 97729 invoked by uid 99); 12 Jun 2014 20:04:35 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 20:04:35 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=10 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy includes SPF record at spf.trusted-forwarder.org) Received: from [209.85.128.179] (HELO mail-ve0-f179.google.com) (209.85.128.179) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 20:04:28 +0000 Received: by mail-ve0-f179.google.com with SMTP id sa20so478912veb.38 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 13:04:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=52DyEKHe9To1UnFMeY2uv+YcmC97C/UiT+CbbIGWwpQ=; b=PrXwMGyq/CxJLiqgUeoADQVAGoFM4PFR+GomxObUVCRzfLrwyvmaVbLOc9H1fUur7n T3n8XKHh7NpQf59xEq4V+2yOM1zrgRrNdFWm/3wzos8bwXoyg0LPrZTDGx80jdw+xvpc yCSjDyQtlxDG93A0R+CFA7sXb7EWVGO0eSixvbfBDfaE9yA6FQsJk41u0RBYurvvOTTg 089PsbBKQ/6D0H0n/yJ/F52os4o79YCh8+328c3zcCOWVF/qk7AVBC4PboDqU6lBcPNA TqDyC6eBz58k31xTBmOu8SjOgICCpQG+UPTZwyv54nkGEZb7A19OS1O7iY3o2o98tjcg 3jfQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmnRKW0zmmhiL+PQWSIiRN5wGarIf7/8I6SAkewYGyv+wrbsFA9GcM+quzSFIm65gHpml0E MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.53.69 with SMTP id z5mr1761549vdo.42.1402603447116; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 13:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.24.41 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 13:04:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [206.190.64.2] In-Reply-To: <1402598717.30018.YahooMailNeo@web121805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1402598717.30018.YahooMailNeo@web121805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 13:04:07 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Release Policy clarification inititiative From: Marvin Humphrey To: infrastructure-dev@apache.org, Joe Schaefer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > What is all this stuff about REQUIRED individual testing as a prerequisite > to a vote? Most IPMC votes would be invalidated by this, are you sure this > is what you want versus RECOMMENDED? It's not a question of what I want, but what's in the current policy. http://www.apache.org/dev/release#approving-a-release What are the ASF requirements on approving a release? [...] Before voting +1 PMC members are required to download the signed source code package, compile it as provided, and test the resulting executable on their own platform, along with also verifying that the package meets the requirements of the ASF policy on releases. A lot of people, including me, think that policy ought to change. But the goal of this initiative is only to clarify policy, not to change it. If we widen the scope to include policy improvements we will never finish. In the draft text, we made some tweaks to emphasize policy conformance, but the requirements remain the same. Discussion thread: http://s.apache.org/PnR Marvin Humphrey