Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-infrastructure-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-infrastructure-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D81D310BE4 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 23:44:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 76496 invoked by uid 500); 16 Apr 2014 23:44:25 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-infrastructure-dev-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 76370 invoked by uid 500); 16 Apr 2014 23:44:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact infrastructure-dev-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: infrastructure-dev@apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list infrastructure-dev@apache.org Received: (qmail 76362 invoked by uid 99); 16 Apr 2014 23:44:24 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 23:44:24 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=10 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: unknown (athena.apache.org: error in processing during lookup of aharui@adobe.com) Received: from [207.46.163.242] (HELO na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) (207.46.163.242) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 23:44:18 +0000 Received: from BL2PR02MB500.namprd02.prod.outlook.com (10.141.95.147) by BL2PR02MB499.namprd02.prod.outlook.com (10.141.95.143) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.918.8; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 23:43:57 +0000 Received: from BL2PR02MB500.namprd02.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.95.147]) by BL2PR02MB500.namprd02.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.95.147]) with mapi id 15.00.0918.000; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 23:43:57 +0000 From: Alex Harui To: "infrastructure-dev@apache.org" Subject: Re: Discussion on enabling users to specify own machines as dynamic hosts Thread-Topic: Discussion on enabling users to specify own machines as dynamic hosts Thread-Index: AQHPWaXAR4sF/aeED0ynZqfwXuxD5ZsUmi0A//+SoACAAHhNAP//j0YAgAB3owD//5TaAAAPGryAAAHfXwD//6ofAA== Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 23:43:56 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.9.131030 x-originating-ip: [63.229.18.107] x-forefront-prvs: 01834E39B7 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(10019001)(6009001)(428001)(189002)(199002)(479174003)(377454003)(51704005)(24454002)(77982001)(92726001)(31966008)(4396001)(79102001)(36756003)(85852003)(20776003)(86362001)(2656002)(92566001)(99396002)(87936001)(83072002)(81542001)(76482001)(74662001)(46102001)(83506001)(80976001)(74502001)(54356999)(81342001)(66066001)(76176999)(80022001)(77096999)(99286001)(50986999)(83322001)(19580405001)(19580395003);DIR:OUT;SFP:1102;SCL:1;SRVR:BL2PR02MB499;H:BL2PR02MB500.namprd02.prod.outlook.com;FPR:E4B4F0EA.94F75EC9.F5E598AC.C6E96971.2022E;MLV:sfv;PTR:InfoNoRecords;MX:1;A:1;LANG:en; received-spf: None (: adobe.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <9C84BBAD77EFCE44B819A37559C9674B@namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: adobe.com X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 4/16/14 2:51 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" wrote: >>> >There is a big difference between developer builds which can happen >> > >everywhere (I also build on my own machine), and builds that are >>sent to >> > >tester or maybe even voted on. >> > Are we allowed to vote on bits built by a CI server? >> > >> >> I have raised this question a couple of times, and the answers have been >> consistent: >> >> As a PMC you need to get the source and build it, in order to validate >>it, >> but builds from trusted buildbots can be used for validation. And just >>at >> apacheCon denver one discussion concluded that build machines where we >> (asf) do not know whats installed cannot be seen as secure. >> >> >Also, official releases need to be signed by a committer (Release Manager) >There is a chance that the artifact could get corrupted (maliciously or >because of a network error) during the download to the committers machine. >It seems unwise for a committer to sign an artifact that they din't build >themselves. That's true, but I think I've seen others argue that if the buildbot has a checksum on the bits you know it didn't get corrupted coming to your machine. -Alex