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From Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: A server for Openmeetings
Date Tue, 24 Sep 2013 06:01:43 GMT
Dear Tony,

Are the any updates on this topic?


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Tony Stevenson <tony@pc-tony.com> wrote:

> We need to get a vmware host specced up, agreed, purchased, delivered,
> racked, installed, configured, a VM created etc,
> Once we know this is what we want to do we will need to allow ~1 month
> turn-around time.  Maybe 6 weeks.
>
> Primarily the delay is in the order, racking, and installing stages.  But
> also bear in mind our new EU colo has very few services in it.
>
>
>
>
> On 7 Jun 2013, at 07:19, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Artyom,
> >
> > Tony said,
> >> actually someone just reminded me that our new EU colo provider
> > has enough bandwidth to cope with your request - however it is not QoSed
> > so it cannot be guaranteed - but giving the amount they made available
> > to us I dont think you would make a significant dent in that.
> >
> > Tony, what would be our next step to set up the server at EU colo
> provider?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> > --
> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > http://dataved.ru/
> > +7 916 562 8095
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Alexei Fedotov
> > <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Tony, as I have said, the requirements are not as important as the
> >> fact we have the server running. For those who feel that bandwidth is
> >> not enough or is not reliable enough there is always an option to
> >> switch to other test servers (or install their own server). We may add
> >> a warning message at the welcome screen.
> >>
> >> As for your previous question, my AWS bills for two test servers are
> >> ~$30 per month though micro-instance is kinda slow, and hetzner bills
> >> are approx. ~$30 per server. For 100 Mbit/s connected server located
> >> in Russia (with higher hosting costs) I pay 250$ / month.
> >> --
> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> http://dataved.ru/
> >> +7 916 562 8095
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Tony Stevenson <pctony@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>> Tony Stevenson wrote on Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 06:46:55PM +0100:
> >>>> Alexei Fedotov wrote on Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 09:32:12PM +0400:
> >>>>> Tony, I'm sorry. This was discussed for sure. Things sometimes
> change over
> >>>>> time, that's why I have asked once again.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We have have several test servers and chat channels hosted around.
My
> >>>>> intention was to have more
> >>>>> development resources hosted @apache and branded by apache.
> >>>>
> >>>> Generally that is a good thing.  However your requirements are
> >>>> significant, and this is not something we could in all good faith
> commit
> >>>> too. Sorry.
> >>>
> >>> Alexi, actually someone just reminded me that our new EU colo provider
> >>> has enough bandwidth to cope with your request - however it is not
> QoSed
> >>> so it cannot be guaranteed - but giving the amount they made available
> >>> to us I dont think you would make a significant dent in that.
> >>>
> >>> The only issue now is the lack of hardware in this location to 'make it
> >>> so'. We could look at purchasing a new box for the site, but we wouldnt
> >>> be able to guarantee you the 25% of the server you wanted, and it would
> >>> be a virtual machine that we'd give you.
> >>>
> >>> The colo would be in Europe, specifically in Germany.  Would this be an
> >>> issue for you?
> >>>
> >>> Please let us know, and I *might* be able to carry this forward.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Please do not mis-read my reply - I was trying to be open and honest.
> >>>> While over time we might well be able to offer you all the hardware
> you
> >>>> need, it is so very extremely unlikely we could meet your bandwidth
> >>>> needs. All our bandwidth is donated to us for free, and as such it
> >>>> doesnt come in huge quantities; and where we do have it we have to
> >>>> prioritise core services over that of development instances (i.e. svn
> >>>> and http over that of pmc specific needs).  It's not that we dont want
> >>>> to help, but we only have finite resources, and we need to be careful
> >>>> not to over commit them.  Bandwith is one such commodity where we need
> >>>> to be careful.
> >>>>
> >>>> One option that springs to mind is the use of AWS and friends, while
> >>>> they will not guarantee you the resources you want I suspect you might
> >>>> get somewhere close most of the time. Though again, if you need these
> as
> >>>> a minimum resource at all times we will have to look elsewhere.
> >>>>
> >>>> There might be some money free in the budget to allow you to use such
> a
> >>>> service. Before we throw up n VMs in an attempt to guess if it will
> work
> >>>> for you, can you perhaps go back to your PMC and discuss the idea of
> VMs
> >>>> with the likes of AWS, and when you find a vendor please do a little
> >>>> research into the options, then let us know what you want to do.
>  Please
> >>>> note that the budget is not endless, and if you want to saturate
> 20Mb/s
> >>>> or more, then I guess the bill from AWS will be significant and you
> >>>> might not get a lot of AWS time as a reuslt - so please look carefully
> >>>> and come back to us with options and we can take those forward for
> you.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm pushing this back to you to do the research as we are kinda snowed
> >>>> under somewhat and if you can do this part we might just be able to
> say
> >>>> "go for it" and let you have at it.  I stress 'might' :)
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Tony
> >>>>
> >>>> ----------------------------------
> >>>> Tony Stevenson
> >>>>
> >>>> tony@pc-tony.com
> >>>> pctony@apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.pc-tony.com
> >>>>
> >>>> GPG - 1024D/51047D66
> >>>> ----------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Tony
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------
> >>> Tony Stevenson
> >>>
> >>> tony@pc-tony.com
> >>> pctony@apache.org
> >>>
> >>> http://www.pc-tony.com
> >>>
> >>> GPG - 1024D/51047D66
> >>> ----------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
>
>
> Cheers,
> Tony
>
> ----------------------------------
> Tony Stevenson
>
> tony@pc-tony.com
> pctony@apache.org
>
> http://www.pc-tony.com
>
> GPG - 1024D/51047D66
> ----------------------------------
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Maxim aka solomax

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