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From "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <seba.wag...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: A server for Openmeetings
Date Tue, 24 Sep 2013 07:49:49 GMT
I think they are waiting for a spec.
However I am still a bit confused who needs to approve that spec?
Do we need the ASF board to approve that spec?

Thanks
Sebastian


2013/9/24 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com>

> Dear Tony,
>
> Are the any updates on this topic?
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Tony Stevenson <tony@pc-tony.com> wrote:
>
> > We need to get a vmware host specced up, agreed, purchased, delivered,
> > racked, installed, configured, a VM created etc,
> > Once we know this is what we want to do we will need to allow ~1 month
> > turn-around time.  Maybe 6 weeks.
> >
> > Primarily the delay is in the order, racking, and installing stages.  But
> > also bear in mind our new EU colo has very few services in it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 7 Jun 2013, at 07:19, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Artyom,
> > >
> > > Tony said,
> > >> actually someone just reminded me that our new EU colo provider
> > > has enough bandwidth to cope with your request - however it is not
> QoSed
> > > so it cannot be guaranteed - but giving the amount they made available
> > > to us I dont think you would make a significant dent in that.
> > >
> > > Tony, what would be our next step to set up the server at EU colo
> > provider?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > > http://dataved.ru/
> > > +7 916 562 8095
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Alexei Fedotov
> > > <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Tony, as I have said, the requirements are not as important as the
> > >> fact we have the server running. For those who feel that bandwidth is
> > >> not enough or is not reliable enough there is always an option to
> > >> switch to other test servers (or install their own server). We may add
> > >> a warning message at the welcome screen.
> > >>
> > >> As for your previous question, my AWS bills for two test servers are
> > >> ~$30 per month though micro-instance is kinda slow, and hetzner bills
> > >> are approx. ~$30 per server. For 100 Mbit/s connected server located
> > >> in Russia (with higher hosting costs) I pay 250$ / month.
> > >> --
> > >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > >> http://dataved.ru/
> > >> +7 916 562 8095
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Tony Stevenson <pctony@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >>> Tony Stevenson wrote on Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 06:46:55PM +0100:
> > >>>> Alexei Fedotov wrote on Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 09:32:12PM +0400:
> > >>>>> Tony, I'm sorry. This was discussed for sure. Things sometimes
> > change over
> > >>>>> time, that's why I have asked once again.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> We have have several test servers and chat channels hosted
around.
> My
> > >>>>> intention was to have more
> > >>>>> development resources hosted @apache and branded by apache.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Generally that is a good thing.  However your requirements are
> > >>>> significant, and this is not something we could in all good faith
> > commit
> > >>>> too. Sorry.
> > >>>
> > >>> Alexi, actually someone just reminded me that our new EU colo
> provider
> > >>> has enough bandwidth to cope with your request - however it is not
> > QoSed
> > >>> so it cannot be guaranteed - but giving the amount they made
> available
> > >>> to us I dont think you would make a significant dent in that.
> > >>>
> > >>> The only issue now is the lack of hardware in this location to 'make
> it
> > >>> so'. We could look at purchasing a new box for the site, but we
> wouldnt
> > >>> be able to guarantee you the 25% of the server you wanted, and it
> would
> > >>> be a virtual machine that we'd give you.
> > >>>
> > >>> The colo would be in Europe, specifically in Germany.  Would this be
> an
> > >>> issue for you?
> > >>>
> > >>> Please let us know, and I *might* be able to carry this forward.
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Please do not mis-read my reply - I was trying to be open and
> honest.
> > >>>> While over time we might well be able to offer you all the hardware
> > you
> > >>>> need, it is so very extremely unlikely we could meet your bandwidth
> > >>>> needs. All our bandwidth is donated to us for free, and as such
it
> > >>>> doesnt come in huge quantities; and where we do have it we have
to
> > >>>> prioritise core services over that of development instances (i.e.
> svn
> > >>>> and http over that of pmc specific needs).  It's not that we dont
> want
> > >>>> to help, but we only have finite resources, and we need to be
> careful
> > >>>> not to over commit them.  Bandwith is one such commodity where
we
> need
> > >>>> to be careful.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> One option that springs to mind is the use of AWS and friends,
while
> > >>>> they will not guarantee you the resources you want I suspect you
> might
> > >>>> get somewhere close most of the time. Though again, if you need
> these
> > as
> > >>>> a minimum resource at all times we will have to look elsewhere.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> There might be some money free in the budget to allow you to use
> such
> > a
> > >>>> service. Before we throw up n VMs in an attempt to guess if it
will
> > work
> > >>>> for you, can you perhaps go back to your PMC and discuss the idea
of
> > VMs
> > >>>> with the likes of AWS, and when you find a vendor please do a little
> > >>>> research into the options, then let us know what you want to do.
> >  Please
> > >>>> note that the budget is not endless, and if you want to saturate
> > 20Mb/s
> > >>>> or more, then I guess the bill from AWS will be significant and
you
> > >>>> might not get a lot of AWS time as a reuslt - so please look
> carefully
> > >>>> and come back to us with options and we can take those forward
for
> > you.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'm pushing this back to you to do the research as we are kinda
> snowed
> > >>>> under somewhat and if you can do this part we might just be able
to
> > say
> > >>>> "go for it" and let you have at it.  I stress 'might' :)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Cheers,
> > >>>> Tony
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ----------------------------------
> > >>>> Tony Stevenson
> > >>>>
> > >>>> tony@pc-tony.com
> > >>>> pctony@apache.org
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://www.pc-tony.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>> GPG - 1024D/51047D66
> > >>>> ----------------------------------
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Cheers,
> > >>> Tony
> > >>>
> > >>> ----------------------------------
> > >>> Tony Stevenson
> > >>>
> > >>> tony@pc-tony.com
> > >>> pctony@apache.org
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.pc-tony.com
> > >>>
> > >>> GPG - 1024D/51047D66
> > >>> ----------------------------------
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Tony
> >
> > ----------------------------------
> > Tony Stevenson
> >
> > tony@pc-tony.com
> > pctony@apache.org
> >
> > http://www.pc-tony.com
> >
> > GPG - 1024D/51047D66
> > ----------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>



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