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From Tony Stevenson <pct...@apache.org>
Subject Re: A server for Openmeetings
Date Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:08:57 GMT
Tony Stevenson wrote on Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 06:46:55PM +0100:
> Alexei Fedotov wrote on Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 09:32:12PM +0400:
> > Tony, I'm sorry. This was discussed for sure. Things sometimes change over
> > time, that's why I have asked once again.
> > 
> > We have have several test servers and chat channels hosted around. My
> > intention was to have more
> > development resources hosted @apache and branded by apache.
> Generally that is a good thing.  However your requirements are
> significant, and this is not something we could in all good faith commit
> too. Sorry. 

Alexi, actually someone just reminded me that our new EU colo provider
has enough bandwidth to cope with your request - however it is not QoSed
so it cannot be guaranteed - but giving the amount they made available
to us I dont think you would make a significant dent in that. 

The only issue now is the lack of hardware in this location to 'make it
so'. We could look at purchasing a new box for the site, but we wouldnt
be able to guarantee you the 25% of the server you wanted, and it would
be a virtual machine that we'd give you. 

The colo would be in Europe, specifically in Germany.  Would this be an
issue for you? 

Please let us know, and I *might* be able to carry this forward. 

> Please do not mis-read my reply - I was trying to be open and honest.
> While over time we might well be able to offer you all the hardware you
> need, it is so very extremely unlikely we could meet your bandwidth
> needs. All our bandwidth is donated to us for free, and as such it
> doesnt come in huge quantities; and where we do have it we have to
> prioritise core services over that of development instances (i.e. svn
> and http over that of pmc specific needs).  It's not that we dont want
> to help, but we only have finite resources, and we need to be careful
> not to over commit them.  Bandwith is one such commodity where we need
> to be careful.  
> One option that springs to mind is the use of AWS and friends, while
> they will not guarantee you the resources you want I suspect you might
> get somewhere close most of the time. Though again, if you need these as
> a minimum resource at all times we will have to look elsewhere. 
> There might be some money free in the budget to allow you to use such a
> service. Before we throw up n VMs in an attempt to guess if it will work
> for you, can you perhaps go back to your PMC and discuss the idea of VMs
> with the likes of AWS, and when you find a vendor please do a little
> research into the options, then let us know what you want to do.  Please
> note that the budget is not endless, and if you want to saturate 20Mb/s
> or more, then I guess the bill from AWS will be significant and you
> might not get a lot of AWS time as a reuslt - so please look carefully
> and come back to us with options and we can take those forward for you. 
> I'm pushing this back to you to do the research as we are kinda snowed
> under somewhat and if you can do this part we might just be able to say
> "go for it" and let you have at it.  I stress 'might' :) 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Tony
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> Tony Stevenson
> tony@pc-tony.com
> pctony@apache.org
> http://www.pc-tony.com
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