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From "William A Rowe Jr"<wr...@rowe-clan.net>
Subject Re: Official code signing certificate
Date Sat, 23 Jun 2012 21:33:48 GMT
No.  That is the nature of the beast, the validation code doesn't understand  
nested certs.  MS's fault.  Not the CA.

If we had a root cert... but the flippant nature of this dialog suggests  
that even the nature of a foundation wide cert is not being respected.  It  
is in no way comparable to individual pgp keys.

And to the second point, I suggest not.

If we now have 5-7 projects looking for code signing, I'd suggest it is time  
for Sam as VP infra, or his delegate, to re-approach the Symantec team and  
find out the terms and conditions on their code signing service and the  
cost.  Have a couple infra team members act as admins.  As I may be signing  
objects I would prefer not to also be an admin, but would serve if pressed.

You gain a login.  There is some level of client automation that could  
simplify things.  You submit bits.  They come back with unique certs.  Admin  
or the user can revoke a sig later discovered to be viral/bugged/not  

Integration to Maven may be possible.

Reinventing the wheel seems foolish.  This would be an external service with  
minimal infra requirements.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid

-----Original message-----
From: Scott Deboy <scott.deboy@gmail.com>
To: infrastructure-dev@apache.org
Sent: Sat, Jun 23, 2012 19:12:00 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: Official code signing certificate

Will root CAs allow a single organization to request different code signing
certificates for their different groups in the organization?

If this were possible, I'm not sure how much this affects the workflow, but
it might.  I also might reduce the exposure mentioned by Sam.

If we agree we need code signing certificates, but disagree on the workflow
for getting artifacts signed, I would suggest we can move forward with the
process of requesting the code signing certificates themselves, and in the
process get an answer to the question as to whether or not PMC-level code
signing certificates are an option.

Logging Services needs a Java code signing certificate.


On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> OK.  I agree that this would be much harder for Infra to do code
> >> signing than it would be for the PMC's to do this.
> >
> > I'll note that I said nothing of the sort.
> >
> > To recap: any and all requests for the ASF infrastructure team to
> > provide a web service to sign an arbitrary binary on behalf of the ASF
> > will be rejected.  Instead, projects are encouraged to design a
> > process by which [P]PMCs can request a build of an specified tag from
> > source with the expectation that the outcome will be a signed binary
> > that the project can evaluate and chose to release.
> >
> Great.  Thanks for being so definitive on that.
> As we all know the PMC's are the ones that already build releases,
> review releases, vote on releases, sign releases, support users with
> the releases and maintain the releases.    So there is some synergy to
> having what amounts merely to a different signing technology devolve
> to the project level as well, where the release diligence already
> occurs.  But out of an abundance of caution  I thought it was
> important that we checked with Infra first.  That being done, no
> further questions from me.
> Thanks again for your time.
> -Rob
> > - Sam Ruby

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