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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:37:41 +0100
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Subject: Re: A server for Openmeetings Re: OpenMeetings status (Was:
 [Incubator Wiki] Update of "March2012" by SebastianWagner)
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*I'd be happy to help you figure out what demand really exists within the
ASF*
=3D> That would be great Ross!

By getting some feedback from within the ASF we could also gather some
ideas for improvements for our Roadmap.

Sebastian

2012/3/12 Ross Gardler <rgardler@opendirective.com>

> On 12 March 2012 07:24, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Tony,
> >
> > There are requirements for hosting small conferences for ~8 people
> > (like Apache board):
>
> I've not seen the Apache Board request such a service - quite the
> opposite in fact, there are reasons why a dial in conference is better
> for such meetings, this was discussed recently when someone suggested
> using Skype or equivalent.
>
> As for other projects the ASF generally discourages any kind of
> official synchronous communication as it excludes people in different
> time zones and increases the difficulties for people who do not speak
> English as a first language. That being said there might be some valid
> use cases for this kind of thing. I can imagine some projects running
> user focussed Q&A sessions, others might run occasional sessions to
> help new developers configure dev machines. I can also imagine it
> being useful during GSoC. However, I doubt infra will want to set-up
> and maintain such a server unless a reasonable number of projects have
> indicated they will use it.
>
> As an OpenMeetings mentor and as a member of the Community Development
> PMC I'd be happy to help you figure out what demand really exists
> within the ASF. Then, if appropriate, we can then approach infra for
> the resources. I note later in this thread it is indicated that
> bandwidth is a problem. If there is a compelling enough reason then a
> case could be made to increase the available bandwidth, but
> demonstration of genuine need must to come first.
>
> Ross
>
> >
> > virtual Ubuntu host
> > 1Gb memory
> > 20 Mbit/s of bandwidth (the more, the better)
> > 25% of modern 2-core processor
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > With best regards / =D3 =CE=C1=C9=CC=D5=DE=DB=C9=CD=C9 =D0=CF=D6=C5=CC=
=C1=CE=C9=D1=CD=C9,
> > Alexei Fedotov / =E1=CC=C5=CB=D3=C5=CA =E6=C5=C4=CF=D4=CF=D7,
> > http://dataved.ru/
> > +7 916 562 8095
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Tony Stevenson <pctony@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> Alexei Fedotov wrote on Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:23:32AM +0400:
> >>> Jukka,
> >>> I believe there are use cases for real time communication. For
> >>> example, GSoC is coming, and one of requirements for student/mentor
> >>> pair is to have a Skype interview. Why not to replace it with Apache
> >>> Openmetings interview?
> >>>
> >>> Infra folks,
> >>> Do you think it makes sense to create Apache openmeetigns demo server=
,
> >>> which can be used for real time communication?
> >>
> >> To be honest, thats isnt for us to answer, what we will answer to is a
> request
> >> for resources to run something on. However please note that just askin=
g
> for a
> >> 'server' with no real specification of resources required, your reques=
t
> will
> >> quite likely grind to a halt.  In other words the more information you
> can give
> >> us the better chance you will have of actually getting what you ask fo=
r.
> >>
> >>> How difficult would it be?
> >>
> >> You tell us, we haven't deployed it before.  If we were to give you a
> 'server'
> >> it would amonst certainly be either a Ubuntu VM, or an fBSD Jail. Both
> of
> >> which are I/O restricted as the physical host is shared with others.
> >>
> >>> Openmeetings could take advantage of good bandwidth.
> >>
> >> So does skype.  :-)
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> With best regards / =D3 =CE=C1=C9=CC=D5=DE=DB=C9=CD=C9 =D0=CF=D6=C5=
=CC=C1=CE=C9=D1=CD=C9,
> >>> Alexei Fedotov / =E1=CC=C5=CB=D3=C5=CA =E6=C5=C4=CF=D4=CF=D7,
> >>> http://dataved.ru/
> >>> +7 916 562 8095
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 11:53 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >>> <seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > @Alexei I can remember it was your question about having a demo
> server @
> >>> > Apache
> >>> >
> >>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>> > From: Jukka Zitting <jukka.zitting@gmail.com>
> >>> > Date: 2012/3/5
> >>> > Subject: OpenMeetings status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of
> "March2012"
> >>> > by SebastianWagner)
> >>> > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi,
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks for the early report, OpenMeetings! (And good catch on
> >>> > reverting the accidental removal of your report.)
> >>> >
> >>> > Sounds like you're off to a good start at incubation. I'm looking
> >>> > forward to more good news from you!
> >>> >
> >>> > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Apache Wiki <wikidiffs@apache.org=
>
> wrote:
> >>> >> +   - A question for PMC: Should we start a demo server on Apache,
> so
> >>> > people
> >>> >> +     can benefit from communication?
> >>> >
> >>> > The best approach is probably to bring this idea up with the
> >>> > infrastructure team. I'm not sure if many projects or other groups
> >>> > within Apache would be interested in such a service (real-time
> >>> > communication can be a bit troublesome from a community perspective=
),
> >>> > but it doesn't hurt to ask.
> >>> >
> >>> >> + Problems:
> >>> >> +   * currently the legal status of our plugins is not 100% clear
> if we
> >>> > are able to maintain and publish them under ASL, see
> >>> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-openmeetings-dev/20120=
2.mbox/%3CCACeMiA-HLOFjCj%3DHopsHz-FP884JyQ5mwHnGPVSrD5TVC_D%2BTw%40mail.gm=
ail.com%3Ewe
> >>> > need to discuss that further and get an official statement.
> >>> >
> >>> > You can contact also legal-discuss@apache.org if you need more help
> on this.
> >>> >
> >>> > BR,
> >>> >
> >>> > Jukka Zitting
> >>> >
> >>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------=
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> >>> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Sebastian Wagner
> >>> > http://www.openmeetings.de
> >>> > http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
> >>> > http://www.webbase-design.de
> >>> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> >>> > seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Tony
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------
> >> Tony Stevenson
> >>
> >> tony@pc-tony.com  //  pctony@apache.org
> >> tony@caret.cam.ac.uk
> >>
> >> http://blog.pc-tony.com
> >>
> >> GPG - 1024D/51047D66
> >> --------------------------------------"
> >>
>
>
>
> --
> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
> Programme Leader (Open Development)
> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
>


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Sebastian Wagner
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com

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