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From "Philip M. Gollucci" <pgollu...@p6m7g8.com>
Subject Re: New lab, using Git
Date Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:25:31 GMT
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On 06/18/10 17:36, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
> On Jun 18, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Philip M. Gollucci wrote:
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>> On 06/18/10 12:19, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Since there were no objections so far, I'll move forward on this over
>>> the next few days.
>>> I'll use labs@ for topics related to the proposed Oak lab itself, and
>>> infra-dev@ for stuff related to the required Gerrit setup.
>>> BR,
>> Jukka, sorry, I've not been paying enough attention due to real life.
>> <Infra VP Hat>
>> There are several issues [1] with what you propose.  Some of them we can
>> fix others we can't.  Please hold off for now until we discuss this some
>> more.  I think at this point a better venue would be infra-private until
>> we bring the results back to the public eye.
>> 1.  You're running a production service, and of all services Version
>> 	control in a ZONE.
>> 2.  Nobody knows how this works other then you.
>> 3.  Just b/c its a lab doesn't mean its free of the ASF wide policy
>> 	guidelines.
>> </Infra VP Hat>
> On the contrary, because it is a lab it is not able to do releases
> and is not an Apache project.  It is therefore outside any of our
> policies regarding Apache releases, including use of subversion.
> I don't think there should be any more restrictions placed on labs
> than we would place on what committers do with their home directory
> on people.a.o.
While I agree with Roy, I wasn't aware this was the case of labs.  It is
a PMC afterall.

Given the no release and it will end up in svn at incubation if it gets
that far bullet, I don't particularly have any objection to this.  As
for the community expirement portion I do NOT agree its a good test.
Labs are small and typically 1-2 people. I don't think any reasonable
conclusions of how it will affect ASF as a whole or any one TLP can be
drawn either good or bad.

What I would like to see happen is the git stuff moved off zones and
SunOS to a real server esp since all zones will eventually die this
year. I would like to see lots more documentation and at least 1 person
on root@ familiar with this and able to help maintain it.

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