Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-infrastructure-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: (qmail 51470 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2009 01:20:56 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 01:20:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 75777 invoked by uid 500); 2 Oct 2009 01:20:56 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-infrastructure-dev-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 75652 invoked by uid 500); 2 Oct 2009 01:20:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact infrastructure-dev-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: infrastructure-dev@apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list infrastructure-dev@apache.org Received: (qmail 75642 invoked by uid 99); 2 Oct 2009 01:20:55 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:20:55 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=10.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [72.14.220.156] (HELO fg-out-1718.google.com) (72.14.220.156) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:20:45 +0000 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so1892072fga.5 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.222.15 with SMTP id u15mr1750404fgg.33.1254446424718; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.0.1? ([58.165.190.145]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l19sm617272fgb.27.2009.10.01.18.20.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:20:23 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Brett Porter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Subject: Re: Looking forward on VMs, Zones and Jails From: Brett Porter In-Reply-To: <4239a4320909301600w724c4995icb42bca16aaac20f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:20:16 +1000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <4239a4320909301600w724c4995icb42bca16aaac20f@mail.gmail.com> To: infrastructure-dev@apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 01/10/2009, at 9:00 AM, Paul Querna wrote: > Proposed Policy: > - Full VMs, with whole OS stack, are to be allocated for specific > purposes, and must be kept up to date by the owning group in regards > to security and operating system patches. Unless there is a specific > need for a specific operating system, we will direct all requests to > use FreeBSD Jails. +1 in general I expect the zones are running a lot of Java things. I heard a lot of murmurs in the past about how well Java works on FreeBSD - is that likely to be an issue now? On the build front, VMs for the different OSes will still likely be needed. It'd be good to go for some standard versions and maintenance guides here so there is some consistency. - Brett