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Subject: RE: long term goal: reliable services for developers
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:23:34 +1000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Querna [mailto:paul@querna.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 August 2009 7:03 PM
> To: infrastructure-dev@apache.org
> Subject: Re: long term goal: reliable services for developers
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> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:41 AM, Tony Stevenson<tony@pc-tony.com> =
wrote:
> >
> > On 25 Aug 2009, at 09:31, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 4:55 AM, Paul Querna<paul@querna.org> =
wrote:
> >>>
> >>> =A07) TLP & www.apache.org Website Seeds (ease of access)
> >>
> >> Picking up one item that's been bugging me. The idea of deploying
> >> sites directly from svn was already mentioned, and I'd also like to
> >> simplify the ways in which projects can set up CI builds for site
> >> deployment.
> >
> > The problem is that there are several methods of deployment at the
> moment.
> > =A0i.e. XML->HTML (ala httpd) Confluence exports
> > To rationalise these into one kind of site would be extremely =
difficult
> and
> > ultimately a laborious task which I am not sure many folks will be =
all
> that
> > willing to be involved in.
> >
> > For example to convert the httpd to confluence would not go down to
> well,
> > due to the sheer size and nature of the content.
> >
> > The inverse is true too, I'm sure, for sites like the spamassassin,
> > converting them to the xml->html (via ant) may not go down so well.
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> Exactly, there is not a one size fit all for websites, but I do
> believe we can offer multiple options.
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> The only one currently available: Put static files onto
> people.apache.org, and once an hour they get rsync'ed to the live
> machines.
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> Adding direct subversion pulls, which would just map a path in
> subversion -> path on live machines, and automatically sync them.
> This is another option TLPs could consider for their site.
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> In the long run it would be nice to have an alternative file store,
> like maybe a WebDav URL, which a TLP can push their static files to,
> and it would be synced to all the web servers right away.  Maybe even
> WebDAV backed by a replicated Subversion server :)

Just to mention yet another option recently added, that is any projects =
that
want to make use of Buildbot to automatically build their sites from svn =
can
do so.

For instance log4php uses it, their site docs, api, etc all get built =
from
svn commit changes, previewed at =
(http://ci.apache.org/projects/log4php/)
and then that is synced across to /www/buildbot-exports/$project/ where =
the
project then via a cron job syncs this to the proper location. Jukka
mentions CI making it easier for projects to deploy -- this can not be =
made
any easier for the project, just ask and it shall be done! (It is not =
direct
to eos/aurora yet but I think we can do that)

Gav...

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> Thoughts?