Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-infrastructure-dev-archive@locus.apache.org Received: (qmail 10141 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2008 17:01:48 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 28 Feb 2008 17:01:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 81023 invoked by uid 500); 28 Feb 2008 17:01:43 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-infrastructure-dev-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 80954 invoked by uid 500); 28 Feb 2008 17:01:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact infrastructure-dev-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: infrastructure-dev@apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list infrastructure-dev@apache.org Received: (qmail 80945 invoked by uid 99); 28 Feb 2008 17:01:43 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:01:43 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.8 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [192.6.10.60] (HELO tobor.hpl.hp.com) (192.6.10.60) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:01:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tobor.hpl.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4649B7B2F for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:01:15 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at hplb.hpl.hp.com Received: from tobor.hpl.hp.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tobor.hpl.hp.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id bs8sFue+3E5i for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:01:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ha-node-br2.hpl.hp.com (ha-node-br2.hpl.hp.com [16.25.144.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tobor.hpl.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAA82B7ACE for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:01:08 +0000 (GMT) MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1204822847.75361@LUfOR7NmYMqQXK7NEV7JgA Received: from [16.25.171.118] (morzine.hpl.hp.com [16.25.171.118]) by ha-node-br2.hpl.hp.com (8.14.1/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m1SH0kHf002516 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:00:46 GMT Message-ID: <47C6E8C1.4060008@apache.org> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:00:49 +0000 From: Steve Loughran User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: infrastructure-dev@apache.org Subject: Re: [scm] Features that systems must support References: <25aac9fc0802271028q595ebe86v8283b328cb7f0294@mail.gmail.com> <5c902b9e0802271052k55eab16bg220fa5516e36a71a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5c902b9e0802271052k55eab16bg220fa5516e36a71a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-HPL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: m1SH0kHf002516 X-HPL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-HPL-MailScanner-From: stevel@apache.org X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:28 AM, sebb wrote: >> * servers should run on a reasonable range of OSes > > I'll go so far and say as long as it runs on FreeBSD, we're happy. > >> * clients should run on a wider range of OSes > > I think it *must* run on all *nix variants and Windows. Dropping > Windows support I think is a non-starter. Or, are we willing to say > we'll drop Windows support? > >> * command-line should be supported >> * GUI should be supported > > What type of GUIs? What about integration with IDEs? Eclipse? > IntelliJ? Are we okay with losing IDE support? Or, take the opinion > that if we switch, they'll eventually add support - this is what we > saw with Subversion, but maybe we can convince folks to lose their IDE > integration for a few years while the downstream IDE developers play > catch up. -- justin I think IDE integration w/ SVN has got so good you'd be hard pressed to justify the move, especially for the java developers, where IDEs do integrate well. steve