Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-community-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-community-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D06E11155 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 02:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 57175 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jul 2014 02:19:59 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-community-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 56822 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jul 2014 02:19:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact community-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: community@apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list community@apache.org Received: (qmail 56806 invoked by uid 99); 3 Jul 2014 02:19:58 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 03 Jul 2014 02:19:58 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of hyandell@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.42 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.216.42] (HELO mail-qa0-f42.google.com) (209.85.216.42) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 03 Jul 2014 02:19:53 +0000 Received: by mail-qa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id dc16so9858750qab.29 for ; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 19:19:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=ZALExAl1/JrPAil0PohE3tX67/snP9ffryCei5xvo5I=; b=RDZbx8O0YEKUDhhw8gnwfDWJ+/TDrxcvt3PJKwRMGLAvKr4Ito/ftMvmfGwL9/pCOB GxyJgx45TU1X5wBtfwTeFC5cFC/h3PGJNVz9rS+7EyygBXaTgI0iYKVVsGiqSxizBkCh dFyQHDlTptwbX9FhkacFRcT1btB6VXxbhYSo1OEZVXtDR7pI9EEdtn/uwfrpt6CqmFMY FGMI3NuLBEa/S+6RnHQCNaYWxEPVut81ZL9dCVdbmJRCUzqHbrDTjVpBtBqaVAXTh1V+ uqQskso+lxxEHDetpEG+c7hrrZMuPdc1u97QTpQMDjVR3rwOek4UXPWYB+rvQ0GwlRSp 7npw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.35.133 with SMTP id p5mr2951480qcd.0.1404353972638; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 19:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Sender: hyandell@gmail.com Received: by 10.96.197.105 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 19:19:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 19:19:32 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ZSgHMxHtw3vECd3TVRuKymQ2sUY Message-ID: Subject: Re: Political Candidate Relations From: Henri Yandell To: "community@apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b471bcead9b2104fd40a3df X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --047d7b471bcead9b2104fd40a3df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I think that's the wrong question. We're (mostly) a bunch of programmers and know sod all about governance (much as each/most of us will happily expound on what we think we know :) ). I imagine however that many of us would happily offer up some time to hear about the problems that government faces being efficient and share anecdotes and history from our communities that may have useful analogies within the problems being faced by government. For example - I was at a conference where a government group were considering how they could best open source their legacy system and get 'the community' (quotes mine) to help with a rewrite. The press, media and our own self-marketing has convinced people that there are magic community elves waiting to do whatever work might come their way. I made the point that they had to start by identifying the community being talked about; and that that community should be the ones who feel the pain of an inadequate product and want to scratch it (shallow example in the interest of brevity :) ). Hen On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 11:20 AM, McGovern, James wrote: > I have decided to run for State Representative and often get questions > from other candidates regarding ways government can be made more efficient. > Do you think there is merit in technology groups such as Apache holding > forums to educate elected officials on the value of open source? > > > > http://facebook.com/McGovernForCT > --047d7b471bcead9b2104fd40a3df Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think that's the wrong question. We're= (mostly) a bunch of programmers and know sod all about governance (much as= each/most of us will happily expound on what we think we know :) ).
I imagine however that many of us would happily offer up some ti= me to hear about the problems that government faces being efficient and sha= re anecdotes and history from our communities that may have useful analogie= s within the problems being faced by government.

For example - I was at a conference where a government group= were considering how they could best open source their legacy system and g= et 'the community' (quotes mine) to help with a rewrite. The press,= media and our own self-marketing has convinced people that there are magic= community elves waiting to do whatever work might come their way. I made t= he point that they had to start by identifying the community being talked a= bout; and that that community should be the ones who feel the pain of an in= adequate product and want to scratch it (shallow example in the interest of= brevity :) ).

Hen



On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 11:20 AM, McGovern, James <= span dir=3D"ltr"><james.mcgovern@hp.com> wrote:

I have decided to run for= State Representative and often get questions from other candidates regardi= ng ways government can be made more efficient. Do you think there is merit in technology groups such as Apache holding forums to educa= te elected officials on the value of open source?

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http://facebook.com/McGovernForCT


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