Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-community-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 27240 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2010 04:41:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 24 Sep 2010 04:41:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 74517 invoked by uid 500); 24 Sep 2010 04:41:08 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-community-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 74129 invoked by uid 500); 24 Sep 2010 04:41:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact community-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: community@apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list community@apache.org Received: (qmail 74116 invoked by uid 99); 24 Sep 2010 04:41:04 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 04:41:04 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of mfncooper@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.178 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.216.178] (HELO mail-qy0-f178.google.com) (209.85.216.178) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 04:40:56 +0000 Received: by qyk36 with SMTP id 36so4244300qyk.2 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:40:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=FmNp2l0RzIbjj5sFuT8jaLfkSWgzgVuZpECWmW6yhgU=; b=wvVbryWgLSDirljd5/IRQ63h2d//NYnyVJJINDIFV1/K4NcvJtuMafuYY8UlxmYShE 0qXwc9KULKv45N8yqsdI2x4QfLfhV8lJNvjL4Nw70k3Tr4dJQtVu7JTTNkihwdjbZOmV cA4vQ4kyv66nqGaxcX5lRBCDYvAHbuLoXl+mA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=LYbyDTBk8OsDrI3kRDDkYJzUeuOmDVE5YViAib/1N/UOcCiuy69cpgU0z1HNjnxNim ncMgc1xyDe0XZmyp0WKWuScAktjSBqnglRZn0aIS3qOM2pj9nYC5Y28VPJBYHsxWzsWm sLF509BtTVwFwOmYcIewQEIkPM8Oew/SgJ44E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.60.10 with SMTP id n10mr1054807vch.185.1285303235274; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Sender: mfncooper@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.41.81 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:40:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C9C271C.9080508@apache.org> References: <14D8F11D-62C6-4AE2-9715-AC4F1F31065D@apache.org> <4C9C271C.9080508@apache.org> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:40:35 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: hbpDbECKM3UKWrbZes5HiYUJ58Y Message-ID: Subject: Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment? From: Martin Cooper To: community@apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:20 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 9/23/2010 11:13 PM, Martin Cooper wrote: >> The other thing I'd say is that the answers to these questions are >> going to depend a lot on the particular developers in question. A >> couple of people have commented here on how great it is to be able to >> dig in and find the root cause of a bug, and even fix it. That's great >> for us open source nuts. But the vast majority of developers don't >> give a hoot about why a tool or library or whatever doesn't work, >> whether it's open source or not - they just want it to work. > > See, that's the difference. Well, yes and no. The question was about those who use or work with open source, as I understand it. Whether those same people _appreciate_ open source is somewhat different. (Or are you telling me that I must not appreciate open source because I do have "ifs" attached to where in the code I'll go, and won't dig in to fix a Linux bug?) Likewise, those who just need a dependency to work are not necessarily depending on a vendor to fix it. It may be an open source dependency and they may not have the time, the inclination, or the leeway from their legal department, to fix it themselves. -- Martin Cooper > The folks who appreciate open source are getting their code to work, > no if's and's or but's. > > The folks who rely on a vendor to Just Fix It and really couldn't care > if they are off to another project (or doing nothing) for a few weeks > aren't in the market for the sources of their tooling. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org