Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-community-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 30393 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2010 04:52:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 24 Sep 2010 04:52:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 81478 invoked by uid 500); 24 Sep 2010 04:52:23 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-community-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 79953 invoked by uid 500); 24 Sep 2010 04:52:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact community-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: community@apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list community@apache.org Received: (qmail 79944 invoked by uid 99); 24 Sep 2010 04:52:18 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 04:52:18 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from [140.211.11.9] (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 04:52:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 29935 invoked by uid 99); 24 Sep 2010 04:51:54 -0000 Received: from localhost.apache.org (HELO [192.168.1.121]) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username wrowe, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 04:51:54 +0000 Message-ID: <4C9C2E5F.7070104@apache.org> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:51:43 -0500 From: "William A. Rowe Jr." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: community@apache.org Subject: Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment? References: <14D8F11D-62C6-4AE2-9715-AC4F1F31065D@apache.org> <4C9C271C.9080508@apache.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 9/23/2010 11:40 PM, Martin Cooper wrote: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:20 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: >> On 9/23/2010 11:13 PM, Martin Cooper wrote: >>> The other thing I'd say is that the answers to these questions are >>> going to depend a lot on the particular developers in question. A >>> couple of people have commented here on how great it is to be able to >>> dig in and find the root cause of a bug, and even fix it. That's great >>> for us open source nuts. But the vast majority of developers don't >>> give a hoot about why a tool or library or whatever doesn't work, >>> whether it's open source or not - they just want it to work. >> >> See, that's the difference. > > Well, yes and no. The question was about those who use or work with > open source, as I understand it. Whether those same people > _appreciate_ open source is somewhat different. (Or are you telling me > that I must not appreciate open source because I do have "ifs" > attached to where in the code I'll go, and won't dig in to fix a Linux > bug?) Right. I won't fix every bug I encounter. I'll fix every bug in my way standing between me and completion of my current project(s). There is a difference (and I'm happy to jump operating systems to work around the platform bugs). > Likewise, those who just need a dependency to work are not necessarily > depending on a vendor to fix it. It may be an open source dependency > and they may not have the time, the inclination, or the leeway from > their legal department, to fix it themselves. Or... the author's legal department, c.f. MS bugs. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org