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From Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: "Forking is a Feature" reactions?
Date Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:38:08 GMT
----- Original Message ----

> From: Eric Evans <eevans@rackspace.com>
> To: community@apache.org
> Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 2:30:25 PM
> Subject: Re: "Forking is a Feature" reactions?
> On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 10:19 -0700, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> > > I do not  view myself as a gatekeeper,  and more importantly, that is
> > >  not a role I desire (for myself or anyone  else).  However, I'm  not
> > > self-deluded enough to believe that because I  aspire to  lofty 
> > > ideals, that I somehow do not possess access to a  controlled  
> > > resource _that others do not_.
> >
> >  Then perhaps your portrayal of the typical role for an Apache
> > committer  was "exaggerated for effect".
> I had thought I was precise in my wording,  and I've reread my messages
> to this thread, can you point me at the alleged  exaggeration?  Or is it
> that you in general object to the term  "gatekeeper" in reference to the
> relationship between someone who possess  access rights to a controlled
> resource, and someone who does not. 

You could just as easily describe committers here as "stewards" or
"facilitators" which would be far more apropo of what we try to
teach people about committership.  Gatekeeper is about as loaded
as calling them traffic cops, so yeah it's objectionable when applied
to Apache people.

> > When the day comes that most of our patch submissions to jira  are
> > git-formatted (and hence incompatible with svn) I will be far  more
> > receptive to the idea that svn is a greater barrier to  community
> > participation than svn is.
Sorry I meant to write git there.  See 


AIUI compatibility is a feature that will be included in svn 1.7.  Contrary
to the opinions of some the git folks and the svn folks do collaborate on
feature sets.


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