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From "Alan D. Cabrera" <...@toolazydogs.com>
Subject Re: thanks
Date Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:47:55 GMT
Personally, I don't know why you would waste your time replying.


Regards,
Alan

On Oct 1, 2009, at 6:29 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:

> Tetsuya,
>
> The page you refer to states:
>
> "We would like to take this opportunity to thank our Sponsors"
>
> Note the tense here, it refers to *current* sponsors. I appreciate
> that this may not be completely clear to those who do not speak
> English as a first language. Indeed, due to the vagueness of the
> English langiage it is possible to interpret that statement to refer
> to all sponsors, past and present. However, please be reassured that
> all sponsors that do not renew are removed from the thanks page as it
> refers to current sponsors.
>
> It may be argued that there should be a historical thanks page, I will
> make no comment on the community list about this, it is a matter for
> the PRC.
>
> Ross
>
> 2009/10/1 Tetsuya Kitahata <tetsuya@apache.org>:
>> Not sure
>>
>> Anyway,
>>
>> from \infrastructure\site\trunk\xdocs\foundation\thanks.xml
>>
>> ----
>>
>> ....
>>
>>> <section>
>>> <title>Platinum Sponsor(s)</title>
>>>
>>> <p>The Apache Software Foundation would like to thank the following
>>> Platinum Sponsor(s):</p>
>>>
>>> <img src="images/google.jpg" alt="Google logo" title="Google logo"  
>>> border="0"/>
>>> <p><a href="http://www.google.com/">Google</a>.</p><!--
6/1/2007 -->
>>>
>>> <img src="images/yahoo.jpg" alt="Yahoo logo" title="Yahoo logo"  
>>> border="0"/>
>>> <p><a href="http://www.yahoo.com/">Yahoo!</a>.</p><!--
10/4/2007 -->
>>>
>>> <img src="images/microsoft.jpg" alt="Microsoft logo"  
>>> title="Microsoft logo" border="0"/>
>>> <p><a href="http://www.microsoft.com/">Microsoft</a>.</p><!--
 
>>> 25/7/2008 -->
>>>
>>> </section>
>>>
>>> <section>
>>> <title>Gold Sponsor(s)</title>
>>>
>>> <p>The Apache Software Foundation would like to thank the following
>>> Gold Sponsor(s):</p>
>>>
>>> <img src="images/hp.jpg" alt="HP logo" title="HP logo" border="0"/>
>>> <p><a href="http://opensource.hp.com/">HP</a>.</p><!--
6/1/2007 -->
>>>
>>> </section>
>>>
>>> <section>
>>> <title>Silver Sponsor(s)</title>
>>>
>>> <p>The Apache Software Foundation would like to thank the following
>>> Silver Sponsor(s):</p>
>>>
>>> <img src="images/covalent.jpg" alt="Covalent logo" title="Covalent  
>>> logo" border="0"/>
>>> <p><a href="http://www.covalent.com/">Covalent</a>.</p><!--
 
>>> 6/1/2007 -->
>>>
>>> <img src="images/IONA-Logo.gif" alt="IONA logo" title="IONA logo"  
>>> border="0"/>
>>> <p><a href="http://open.iona.com/">IONA</a>.</p><!--
4/1/2008 -->
>>>
>>> </section>
>>>
>>> <section>
>>> <title>Bronze Sponsor(s)</title>
>>>
>>> <p>The Apache Software Foundation would like to thank the following
>>> Bronze Sponsor(s):</p>
>>>
>>> <p><a href="http://www.airplus.com/" rel="nofollow">AirPlus  
>>> International</a>.</p><!-- 12/1/2007 -->
>>> <p><a href="http://ma.tt/" rel="nofollow">Matt Mullenweg</a>.</

>>> p><!-- 1/29/2008 -->
>>> <p><a href="http://people.apache.org/~tetsuya/">Tetsuya Kitahata</

>>> a>.</p><!-- 6/1/2007 -->
>>> <p><a href="http://www.twosigma.com/">Two Sigma Investments</a>.</

>>> p><!-- 9/1/2007 -->
>>>
>>> </section>
>>>
>>> <section>
>>> <title>Infrastructure support</title>
>>>
>>> <p>The Apache Software Foundation would like to thank the following
>>> organizations for providing infrastructure support:</p>
>>>
>>> <img src="images/osl.jpg" alt="OSUOSL logo" title="OSUOSL logo"  
>>> border="0"/>
>>> <p>Server hosting and bandwidth provided by <a href="http://www.osuosl.org/

>>> ">Oregon State University Open Source Lab</a> (USA) and <a
>>> href="http://www.surfnet.nl/">SURFnet</a> (EU).</p>
>>>
>>> <p>Donation of servers: Sun and IBM.</p>
>>> </section>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> from \infrastructure\site\trunk\xdocs\foundation\thanks.xml
>>
>> (See the !-- part)
>>
>> Why my bronze disappered by the commit by Jim (I memorized)
>> and others exist. Further explainations please?
>>
>> You guys are DISCRIMINATORS utterly.
>>
>> hun
>>
>>
>> bb
>>
>>
>> Tetsuya
>>
>>
>> ----
>>
>>> <<
>>> P.S. Normally, "A donated to B" -- 'B' does not be cared. The  
>>> action itself would
>>> be majored in a sense. At least in japan. B(Apache) is now  
>>> exaggerating the brand
>>> or something -- wrong and bad phenomena
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Tetsuya,
>>>
>>> With all due respect, but I think you are confusing "donations"  
>>> with "investments". Donating does not give you any power to the  
>>> donnor, it is just thanking and helping some work to be done. For  
>>> instance, if you donnated to an NGO helping the poor people in  
>>> Africa (or in Sri Lanka), you would delegate your money to the NGO  
>>> and not expect to tell to the NGO what to do. You just rely on  
>>> them. On the other side, if you bought shares for a company (which  
>>> is not the case of the ASF), you would be able to have your say,  
>>> at least for the percentage of actions that you own.
>>>
>>> About the gaming sites, in the Western world such sites normally  
>>> have a bad connotation and you normally don't want to mix  
>>> something with a good name (e.g. Apache) with that kind of  
>>> gambling activities. I think that in the Eastern world the  
>>> perception of online gaming (or gaming in general) is different  
>>> and more open in a sense - not associated to corruption. That is  
>>> why people reacts so angrily with such proposals.
>>>
>>> As for saying that the foundation is "poisoned". Well, that is a  
>>> big word to use,
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Bruno
>>>
>>> 2009/9/28 Tetsuya Kitahata <tetsuya@apache.org>
>>> The only one thing I found out utterly is that the apache software
>>>>  foundation is poisoned by Jim Jagielski and there could be no
>>>>  curable way.
>>>>
>>>>  1. All the Sponsors who no pay should be deleted immediately  
>>>> from thanks.html
>>>>     even though "GOOGLE", "YAHOO", "MICROSOFT".
>>>>  2. Jim Jagielski lied to me / us because "We will make  
>>>> thanks.html page soon"
>>>>     in the PDF which I first saw -- and for 6 months nothing  
>>>> happened. - 3 years ago iirc.
>>>>
>>>>  Anyways, board - (1) should be done first.
>>>>
>>>>  ----
>>>>
>>>>  Plus, those who can gather companies outside from the United  
>>>> States,
>>>>  go http://jakarta.jp/en
>>>>  and buy. I will take care of it and donate to apache for those  
>>>> companies'
>>>>  names - for sure (If they tell me so).
>>>>
>>>>  501(c) is for American Companies. Not Russian nor Chinese  
>>>> companies.
>>>>  Tax Deductive - meaningless. Although there is this fact, I  
>>>> donated as the
>>>>  first individual sponsor from JAPAN. http://an.to/asf
>>>>  DO YOU UNDERSTAND, MEN?
>>>>
>>>>  Thanks
>>>>
>>>>  Tetsuya.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  P.S. Normally, "A donated to B" -- 'B' does not be cared. The  
>>>> action itself would
>>>>  be majored in a sense. At least in japan. B(Apache) is now  
>>>> exaggerating the brand
>>>>  or something -- wrong and bad phenomena
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  ----
>>>>
>>>>  > Just one message.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Do you think that "MONEY MONEY" person would
>>>>  > do the PERSONAL SPONSORSHIP for poor Sri Lanka
>>>>  > (Shinhala) apache committer?
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Whether Lahiru was a lier or not, I do not care. But the  
>>>> [TRUTH] was [TRUTH].
>>>>  > Please do not view all the things in prejudice.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > bb
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Tetsuya
>>>>  >
>>>>  > > Tetsuya,
>>>>  > >
>>>>  > > I have sent you a separate EMail. Please let me know if
>>>>  > > you have not rec'd it or if you don't understand it.
>>>>  > >
>>>>  > > Thx.
>>>>  >
>>>>  >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Tetsuya Kitahata --  Terra-International, Inc. - President -
>> E-mail: kitahata@99.alumni.u-tokyo.ac.jp  http://www.terra-intl.com
>> Apache News Online              http://www.apachenews.org/
>> Get Your LS with ONLY 50 EUR - http://jakarta.jp/pdf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Ross Gardler
>
> OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research
> http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk


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