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From Tetsuya Kitahata <tets...@apache.org>
Subject Re: thanks
Date Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:51:46 GMT
Sorry

Google and Yahoo? 2008, 2009 renewal done it seems.
I am carefully looking the board meeting text. but somehow omitted

----

Plus,
The problem is/was ...

I have 9000 1st at linked in now. At first, I sent an invitation
to all the apache folks (Some rejected "I don't know" -- I can
not believe it. READ THE THANKS PAGE!!).
and Gradually my 1st grew up.

When I do the business in Linkedin, I message to specific
area (recently, ASEAN). And not-intentionally, there are apache
folks there. (Can you judge whether XX is apache committers or
not when sending to 1500 ppl in ASEAN?)
And 1 or 2 said that "You invited me (as apache) bacause you
want to invite me to MLM business??" or some -- came as a message.

I carefully selecting (around 2004 committers' name I remember), however,
I can not do that at all. Those frustrations went to apache@apache.org or
prc@apache.org and misunderstandings happened I might guess.


I think it would be loss for both.

Thank you for reading

And sorry, Jim

---

> Not sure
> 
> Anyway,
> 
> from \infrastructure\site\trunk\xdocs\foundation\thanks.xml
> 
> ----
> 
> ....
> 
> > <section>
> > <title>Platinum Sponsor(s)</title>
> > 
> > <p>The Apache Software Foundation would like to thank the following
> > Platinum Sponsor(s):</p>
> > 
> > <img src="images/google.jpg" alt="Google logo" title="Google logo" border="0"/>
> > <p><a href="http://www.google.com/">Google</a>.</p><!--
6/1/2007 -->
> > 
> > <img src="images/yahoo.jpg" alt="Yahoo logo" title="Yahoo logo" border="0"/>
> > <p><a href="http://www.yahoo.com/">Yahoo!</a>.</p><!--
10/4/2007 -->
> > 
> > <img src="images/microsoft.jpg" alt="Microsoft logo" title="Microsoft logo" border="0"/>
> > <p><a href="http://www.microsoft.com/">Microsoft</a>.</p><!--
25/7/2008 -->
> > 
> > </section>
> > 
> > <section>
> > <title>Gold Sponsor(s)</title>
> > 
> > <p>The Apache Software Foundation would like to thank the following
> > Gold Sponsor(s):</p>
> > 
> > <img src="images/hp.jpg" alt="HP logo" title="HP logo" border="0"/>
> > <p><a href="http://opensource.hp.com/">HP</a>.</p><!--
6/1/2007 -->
> > 
> > </section>
> > 
> > <section>
> > <title>Silver Sponsor(s)</title>
> > 
> > <p>The Apache Software Foundation would like to thank the following
> > Silver Sponsor(s):</p>
> > 
> > <img src="images/covalent.jpg" alt="Covalent logo" title="Covalent logo" border="0"/>
> > <p><a href="http://www.covalent.com/">Covalent</a>.</p><!--
6/1/2007 -->
> > 
> > <img src="images/IONA-Logo.gif" alt="IONA logo" title="IONA logo" border="0"/>
> > <p><a href="http://open.iona.com/">IONA</a>.</p><!--
4/1/2008 -->
> > 
> > </section>
> > 
> > <section>
> > <title>Bronze Sponsor(s)</title>
> > 
> > <p>The Apache Software Foundation would like to thank the following
> > Bronze Sponsor(s):</p>
> > 
> > <p><a href="http://www.airplus.com/" rel="nofollow">AirPlus International</a>.</p><!--
12/1/2007 -->
> > <p><a href="http://ma.tt/" rel="nofollow">Matt Mullenweg</a>.</p><!--
1/29/2008 -->
> > <p><a href="http://people.apache.org/~tetsuya/">Tetsuya Kitahata</a>.</p><!--
6/1/2007 -->
> > <p><a href="http://www.twosigma.com/">Two Sigma Investments</a>.</p><!--
9/1/2007 -->
> > 
> > </section>
> > 
> > <section>
> > <title>Infrastructure support</title>
> > 
> > <p>The Apache Software Foundation would like to thank the following
> > organizations for providing infrastructure support:</p>
> > 
> > <img src="images/osl.jpg" alt="OSUOSL logo" title="OSUOSL logo" border="0"/>
> > <p>Server hosting and bandwidth provided by <a href="http://www.osuosl.org/">Oregon
State University Open Source Lab</a> (USA) and <a
> > href="http://www.surfnet.nl/">SURFnet</a> (EU).</p>
> > 
> > <p>Donation of servers: Sun and IBM.</p>
> > </section>
> 
> ---
> 
> from \infrastructure\site\trunk\xdocs\foundation\thanks.xml
> 
> (See the !-- part)
> 
> Why my bronze disappered by the commit by Jim (I memorized)
> and others exist. Further explainations please?
> 
> You guys are DISCRIMINATORS utterly.
> 
> hun
> 
> 
> bb
> 
> 
> Tetsuya
> 
> 
> ----
> 
> > <<
> > P.S. Normally, "A donated to B" -- 'B' does not be cared. The action itself would
> > be majored in a sense. At least in japan. B(Apache) is now exaggerating the brand
> > or something -- wrong and bad phenomena
> > >>
> > 
> > Hi Tetsuya,
> > 
> > With all due respect, but I think you are confusing "donations" with "investments".
Donating does not give you any power to the donnor, it is just thanking and helping some work
to be done. For instance, if you donnated to an NGO helping the poor people in Africa (or
in Sri Lanka), you would delegate your money to the NGO and not expect to tell to the NGO
what to do. You just rely on them. On the other side, if you bought shares for a company (which
is not the case of the ASF), you would be able to have your say, at least for the percentage
of actions that you own.
> > 
> > About the gaming sites, in the Western world such sites normally have a bad connotation
and you normally don't want to mix something with a good name (e.g. Apache) with that kind
of gambling activities. I think that in the Eastern world the perception of online gaming
(or gaming in general) is different and more open in a sense - not associated to corruption.
That is why people reacts so angrily with such proposals.
> > 
> > As for saying that the foundation is "poisoned". Well, that is a big word to use,
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Bruno
> > 
> > 2009/9/28 Tetsuya Kitahata <tetsuya@apache.org>
> > The only one thing I found out utterly is that the apache software
> > >  foundation is poisoned by Jim Jagielski and there could be no
> > >  curable way.
> > > 
> > >  1. All the Sponsors who no pay should be deleted immediately from thanks.html
> > >     even though "GOOGLE", "YAHOO", "MICROSOFT".
> > >  2. Jim Jagielski lied to me / us because "We will make thanks.html page soon"
> > >     in the PDF which I first saw -- and for 6 months nothing happened. -
3 years ago iirc.
> > > 
> > >  Anyways, board - (1) should be done first.
> > > 
> > >  ----
> > > 
> > >  Plus, those who can gather companies outside from the United States,
> > >  go http://jakarta.jp/en
> > >  and buy. I will take care of it and donate to apache for those companies'
> > >  names - for sure (If they tell me so).
> > > 
> > >  501(c) is for American Companies. Not Russian nor Chinese companies.
> > >  Tax Deductive - meaningless. Although there is this fact, I donated as the
> > >  first individual sponsor from JAPAN. http://an.to/asf
> > >  DO YOU UNDERSTAND, MEN?
> > > 
> > >  Thanks
> > > 
> > >  Tetsuya.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  P.S. Normally, "A donated to B" -- 'B' does not be cared. The action itself
would
> > >  be majored in a sense. At least in japan. B(Apache) is now exaggerating the
brand
> > >  or something -- wrong and bad phenomena
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  ----
> > > 
> > >  > Just one message.
> > >  >
> > >  > Do you think that "MONEY MONEY" person would
> > >  > do the PERSONAL SPONSORSHIP for poor Sri Lanka
> > >  > (Shinhala) apache committer?
> > >  >
> > >  > Whether Lahiru was a lier or not, I do not care. But the [TRUTH] was
[TRUTH].
> > >  > Please do not view all the things in prejudice.
> > >  >
> > >  > bb
> > >  >
> > >  > Tetsuya
> > >  >
> > >  > > Tetsuya,
> > >  > >
> > >  > > I have sent you a separate EMail. Please let me know if
> > >  > > you have not rec'd it or if you don't understand it.
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Thx.
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
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