Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-community-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 63900 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2004 20:15:26 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 20:15:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 13209 invoked by uid 500); 21 Dec 2004 20:15:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-community-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 12956 invoked by uid 500); 21 Dec 2004 20:15:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact community-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: community@apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list community@apache.org Received: (qmail 12914 invoked by uid 99); 21 Dec 2004 20:15:18 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of robertburrelldonkin@blueyonder.co.uk designates 195.188.213.7 as permitted sender) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (HELO smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk) (195.188.213.7) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:15:15 -0800 Received: from [10.0.0.2] ([82.38.65.173]) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:15:43 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <200412220352.30888.niclas@hedhman.org> References: <200412202336.49054.niclas@hedhman.org> <41C6F7A5.2010304@apache.org> <200412220352.30888.niclas@hedhman.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <03B7B70B-538D-11D9-94A3-003065DC754C@blueyonder.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: robert burrell donkin Subject: Re: Is ASL2.0 not "GPL-compatible" ?? Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:15:10 +0000 To: community@apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2004 20:15:43.0225 (UTC) FILETIME=[D9241690:01C4E799] X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On 21 Dec 2004, at 19:52, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Tuesday 21 December 2004 00:02, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > Furthermore, it was explained to me that the patent right disclaimers > in the > ASL2.0 can be circumvented in nasty ways by a truly malicious > company/individual if that is the intent, SO the GPL compatibility had > higher > value than the patent right issue. in europe at least, it's very likely that this won't really matter. by this time next year, software patent violations are most likely to be enforceable by criminal sanction. any company wanted to maliciously damage an open source project would only have to target individual european release managers using the most pliant european legal system (UK law, for example). i don't see any way in which the ASF could act to help release managers faced with the criminal law in europe and (against this particular patent threat) neither the GPL nor the ASL could offer any protection at all. IMO the chilling effect of only one open source release manager facing a long prison sentence together with total sequestration of assets would be tremendous. happy christmas, one and all! - robert --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org