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From "Stephen McConnell" <mcconn...@apache.org>
Subject RE: [ANN] Avalon Closed
Date Fri, 17 Dec 2004 00:17:47 GMT

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:noel@devtech.com]
> Sent: 15 December 2004 23:11
> To: community@apache.org
> Subject: RE: [ANN] Avalon Closed
> 
> > the only ones who really got hurt were the Avalon users, and the ASF

> > establishment have already declared that they are not important.
> 
> With the exception of Phoenix, which evolved externally as Loom, and 
> Merlin, which decided to move away from the ASF, all of the Avalon 
> code is still under ASF management in the Excalibur project.  In 
> effect, Avalon was renamed Excalibur, and the two container factions 
> that chose not to participate with everyone else have left for 
> pastures that permit such behavior.

Noel:

When you say "and the two container factions that chose not to
participate with everyone else" you are implying and active choice?  Do
you believe that the Avalon community was presented with a choice?

Secondly, do you believe that the Metro project was established on the
premise of "non-participation" or was "pastures that permit such
behavior" just an unfortunate turn of phrase?

Stephen.



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