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From "Stephen McConnell" <mcconn...@apache.org>
Subject RE: [ANN] Avalon Closed
Date Tue, 21 Dec 2004 03:42:41 GMT


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:niclas@hedhman.org]
> Sent: 21 December 2004 04:29
> To: community@apache.org; Noel J. Bergman
> Subject: Re: [ANN] Avalon Closed
> 
> On Tuesday 21 December 2004 07:54, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> > > I give you an example of what I call 'compromise' and
'collaboration'
> ;
> >
> > Those events as you describe them did happen.  If they were the only
> ones,
> > we'd have a happy healthy community.
> 
> :o)
> 
> > > Each individual works on what he/she finds interesting, relevant
> > > and important. Opinions are appreciated, but by no means right,
> > > just because a group within the community say so.
> >
> > Actually, all it takes to veto a change is one PMC member to cast a
-1
> with
> > a technical justification.  The issue is how a community deals with
> those
> > vetos, and how progress can be made by resolving them.
> 
> So, please bring to the table a particular case, since I fail to
recall
> any
> such veto being ignored and/or not worked on to be resolved, other
than
> the
> mentioned Leo Simons' (was he even PMC at the time? still not
ignored.)
> one,
> which got caught up in a larger mess.


Leo was not on the PMC at the time - in fact I think he posted his veto
to the PMC list after having left Avalon.  Also Leo retracted that veto
not long after posting it.  But Noel was a PMC Member so he's aware of
this - so perhaps Noel is referring to something else?

Steve.



> Cheers
> Niclas
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