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From Justin Erenkrantz <jus...@erenkrantz.com>
Subject Re: Inexpensive Lists
Date Thu, 22 Jul 2004 07:25:16 GMT
--On Thursday, July 22, 2004 9:07 AM +0200 Henning Schmiedehausen 
<hps@intermeta.de> wrote:

> Or tell those others here on community@, what we can do to be considered
> as "junior infrastructure people" to relief your burdens.

You could start off by not using community@ to discuss infrastructure 
topics.  (I think Tetsuya started that unfortunate trend.)  infrastructure@ 
is the place to talk about those items not community@.

As for participating in infrastructure@ tasks here in the ASF, it's pretty 
much the same as open-source development: build trust with your peers over 
time.  I don't care if someone has managed a large fleet of servers 
elsewhere - if I don't trust them, I personally don't want them touching 
our servers.  (And, due to confidentiality restrictions, only members can 
get root access.)  Yet, try to jump in as best as you can.  Offer advice 
and help to others on infrastructure@.  And, oh yeah, do *not* attack 
people already involved as that's not going to endear you to anyone.  -- 
justin

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