Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-community-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 31172 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2004 12:02:17 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 25 Mar 2004 12:02:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 791 invoked by uid 500); 25 Mar 2004 12:02:02 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-community-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 472 invoked by uid 500); 25 Mar 2004 12:01:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact community-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: community@apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list community@apache.org Received: (qmail 384 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2004 12:01:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dedasys.com) (80.180.93.203) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 25 Mar 2004 12:01:59 -0000 Received: by dedasys.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 141874C427; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 13:01:55 +0100 (CET) To: Geir Magnusson Jr Cc: community@apache.org Subject: Re: Apache should join the open source java discussion References: <4059A11E.7090302@apache.org> <87ptb1tbtb.fsf@dedasys.com> <8D37CC97-7E50-11D8-8CC5-000A95A01192@4quarters.com> From: davidw@dedasys.com (David N. Welton) Date: 25 Mar 2004 13:01:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: <8D37CC97-7E50-11D8-8CC5-000A95A01192@4quarters.com> Message-ID: <87lllpt9sc.fsf@dedasys.com> Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Geir Magnusson Jr writes: > Costin had some good suggestions for working deeper - like ensuring > code here works on the OSS implementations (which is really just a > form of compatibility testing...) That seems like something that would be beneficial without a huge amount of effort, given how much automated testing seems to go into everything you guys do (again, my impression...). > The only thing we could do for OSS is to actually do an > implementation of a JVM for some platform and get it certified, > which is possible. >From listening to Tom Tromey at FOSDEM, I think the "standard library" is really where the OSS guys need the most help, rather than another JVM. They also want unencumbered access to specs, too, but you'd have to talk with them to get a better understanding of what they mean. -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org