Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-community-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 77356 invoked by uid 500); 11 Jul 2003 09:51:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact community-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: community@apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list community@apache.org Received: (qmail 77338 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 09:51:22 -0000 Received: from lsne-catv-dhcp-40-12.urbanet.ch (HELO mail.qos.ch) (80.238.40.12) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 09:51:22 -0000 Received: from eitan.qos.ch (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by mail.qos.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FEC01EC073 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:15:25 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030711114952.02501b38@mail.qos.ch> X-Sender: ceki@mail.qos.ch (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:54:28 +0200 To: community@apache.org From: Ceki =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=FClc=FC?= Subject: Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003 In-Reply-To: <3F0DE449.6030803@apache.org> References: <20030710231557.B96627-100000@foem> <20030710231557.B96627-100000@foem> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N At 05:10 PM 7/10/2003 -0500, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: >on 7/10/03 4:21 PM Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > > > ... > > > >>one of the consequences of encouraging the breaking up of jakarta is > >>that there are a lot more apache projects (whether they started in > > > > ... > > > >>if we do manage to get some momentum for an apache-wide newsletter, would > > > > > > Please please ! > > > > I think that none of us works in a vacuum across artificial boundaries. > > Virtually all systems I build at work or for play, mix and match things; a > > bit of XML here, some application language there, perhaps some java left, > > somea bit of apache to connect it safely to the internet; some PDF > > generation to keep PHB's happy, etc, etc. > > > > XML, web and java are rarely separated; WS and ant straddle half our world > > - t is hard to think of any app server environment whilst ignoring bits of > > php or mod_perl, etc, etc > > > > So an apache-wide newsletter would be great. And posting it to apache wide > > announce, or even xposting it to all announce mailing list - sure. I'd > > love that. Having it on the web is nice for archival too - but I certainly > > do not mind 5-25k of well written quality newsletter (like the recent one, > > or like apache week) delivered to my doorstep. > > > > Keep up the good work - and think broad - there are no real boundaries in > > the ASF, except for those we invent ourselves. > >I can hardly agree more with Dirk's view. > >I think we should have an apache-wide newsletter and deliver it thru >announce@apache.org once a month. > >At apachecon one of the most packed sessions is always the explaination >about all the different projects in one confy session. > >This newsletter tells people about the "status quo" without having to >shop around for info. I think it would be a great tool to increase >crosspollination and awareness even for people inside the ASF (me first!) Reducing bandwidth is an important objective. At the same time, sharing the bandwidth for highly informative messages is perfectly reasonable and should be encouraged. The Jakarta newsletter is packed with useful information. >-- >Stefano. -- Ceki For log4j documentation consider "The complete log4j manual" ISBN: 2970036908 http://www.qos.ch/shop/products/clm_t.jsp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org