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From "David Reid" <da...@jetnet.co.uk>
Subject Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003
Date Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:58:08 GMT
I don't think community@ is a valid place for news of a newsletter anyway.
Perhaps announce@ for those who are interested.

david

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thom May" <thom@debian.org>
To: <community@apache.org>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003


> * Ceki G?lc? (ceki@qos.ch) wrote :
> > At 05:10 PM 7/10/2003 -0500, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> > >on 7/10/03 4:21 PM Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
> > >
> > >> ...
> > >>
> > >>>one of the consequences of encouraging the breaking up of jakarta is
> > >>>that there are a lot more apache projects (whether they started in
> > >>
> > >> ...
> > >>
> > >>>if we do manage to get some momentum for an apache-wide newsletter,
would
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Please please !
> > >>
> > >> I think that none of us works in a vacuum across artificial
boundaries.
> > >> Virtually all systems I build at work or for play, mix and match
things;
> > >a
> > >> bit of XML here, some application language there, perhaps some java
left,
> > >> somea bit of apache to connect it safely to the internet; some PDF
> > >> generation to keep PHB's happy, etc, etc.
> > >>
> > >> XML, web and java are rarely separated; WS and ant straddle half our
> > >world
> > >> - t is hard to think of any app server environment whilst ignoring
bits
> > >of
> > >> php or mod_perl, etc, etc
> > >>
> > >> So an apache-wide newsletter would be great. And posting it to apache
> > >wide
> > >> announce, or even xposting it to all announce mailing list - sure.
I'd
> > >> love that. Having it on the web is nice for archival too - but I
> > >certainly
> > >> do not mind 5-25k of well written quality newsletter (like the recent
> > >one,
> > >> or like apache week) delivered to my doorstep.
> > >>
> > >> Keep up the good work - and think broad - there are no real
boundaries in
> > >> the ASF, except for those we invent ourselves.
> > >
> > >I can hardly agree more with Dirk's view.
> > >
> > >I think we should have an apache-wide newsletter and deliver it thru
> > >announce@apache.org once a month.
> > >
> > >At apachecon one of the most packed sessions is always the explaination
> > >about all the different projects in one confy session.
> > >
> > >This newsletter tells people about the "status quo" without having to
> > >shop around for info. I think it would be a great tool to increase
> > >crosspollination and awareness even for people inside the ASF (me
first!)
> >
> >
> > Reducing bandwidth is an important objective. At the same time, sharing
> > the bandwidth for highly informative messages is perfectly reasonable
> > and should be encouraged. The Jakarta newsletter is packed with useful
> > information.
> >
> For jakarta people. I do very, *very* little work in the Java domain. As
> such, having a link sent out to a url where i can peruse the newsletter
*if
> I so wish* is much better for me than having my bandwidth wasted by an
email
> that I don't want.
> -Thom
>
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