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From Stefano Mazzocchi <stef...@apache.org>
Subject Re: fyi wiki statistics
Date Wed, 08 Jan 2003 00:27:52 GMT
Greg Stein wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 05:08:19PM -0500, James Taylor wrote:
> 
>>>You are stating that:
>>>
>>>  0) download a working copy [this is done only once]
>>>  1) go to a page
>>>  2) edit it
>>>  3) save it
>>>  4) commit the page
>>>
>>>is comparably simple with
> 
> 
> Feh. I said no such thing. I said that if you wanted to do multiple page
> edits without spamming the change-notification mailing list, then SubWiki
> makes it possible [by following the steps you suggest].
> 
> In no way did I say it was "comparably simple" to standard Wiki editing. Of
> course not... jeez, just how small do you think my brain is? :-)

Sorry, I clearly overreacted. Apologies :-)

>>>  1) go to a page
>>>  2) edit it
>>>  3) save it
>>>
>>>and I disagree.
>>
>>If it means I can edit the page in my fancy editor of choice rather than
>>a dumb web browser then it is much simpler.
> 
> 
> And standard tools and standard commit emails and standard access control
> and all kinds of other stuff.

Point taken and appreciated.

>>>The (only?) beauty of a wiki is its dead-simple editing cycle.
>>
>>I believe sub wiki also has a TTW editing interface. No reason you can't
>>have both. Because it uses subversion to hold pages, the interface is
>>nicely seperated from the data store.
> 
> 
> Yes. You definitely cna edit pages via the web site. That *is* what a Wiki
> is all about. Not the stupid formatting rules.
> 
>     http://test.webdav.org/wiki/Welcome
> 
> And "both" is actually incorrect. You have four ways to view the content and
> three ways to edit the content:
> 
>   1) read/write via the Wiki itself
>   2) read/write via working copies
>   3) read/write via WebDAV (new from sussman and jerenkrantz)
>   4) read via web browser

This implements separation of concerns and everybody knows I'm happy 
when I see that :)

>>Sure, it is not ready for primetime, but I like the idea a lot.
> 
> 
> The code is ready, but I don't have all the "standard" formatting rules and
> macros in there right now. There are a number of things that people expect
> which just aren't in there.

This is not a problem as I think people might add those if needed.

And Python is much easier than Perl for java people anyway :)

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Stefano Mazzocchi                               <stefano@apache.org>
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