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From "Andrew C. Oliver" <acoli...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [proposal] creation of communitity.apache.org
Date Mon, 02 Dec 2002 00:11:07 GMT
Right, well the home pages are there now.  And right now they are more 
closely associated with Apache itself than community.apache.org would. 
 You're bringing up a new issue as to whether they should be taken away. 
 The matter at hand is the creation of a new alias to in a way make them 
more associated with individuals and Apache communities than 
"apache.org" itself.  

You have a corporate viewpoint of how Apache's relationship with Sun 
should be managed.  I tend to think letting them know is fine.  (Somehow 
any explanation of this would probably start sounding like the cluetrain 
manifesto...which I never read because it was too long winded, but 
whatever)..  Let them decide based on the merits on whether they want to 
continue their association..  

Regardless, I think this is a matter of trust and distribution of control.


> I'm afraid of it reflecting poorly upon the ASF.  Not matter how hard 
> you try to say that the content isn't representative of the ASF as a 
> whole, as long as the content is hosted on our site/domain, it will be 
> deemed as such.
> Imagine the day when one of our committers rants about Java on their 
> community.apache.org/~name page and it is posted to /. and Sun gets 
> its panties in a knot due to the bad publicity.  If a member or 
> committer does this in a non-ASF forum, fine.  But, giving people a 
> platform from which to imply association with the ASF isn't helpful to 
> the foundation or its mission.
> Reacting passively to these situations isn't going to help.  Once the 
> story would be posted on /., we're all in hot water.  I believe the 
> best course of action is not to encourage this behavior.  -- justin
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