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From Costin Manolache <cos...@covalent.net>
Subject Re: The Apache Jakarta Law (Scientific?)
Date Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:58:04 GMT
So far it seems Stefano ( who is not currently a very active tomcat
developer) is pissed off by the decisions made on tomcat-dev.
I don't see too many tomcat developers flaming each other.

IMHO most ( or all ) tomcat developers agree that both code bases
had some good and some bad parts. I also think most of the 
tomcat community is behind 5.0, which is a merge of ideas
and code from both 3.3 and 4.x. And I think users were very
well served, and the outcome is one of the best possible. 

In the end we have a far better community and a lot more tolerance
and understanding. 


On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 08:28, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> The Apache Jakarta Law:
> Any discussion regarding Apache Jakarta will eventually degrade into a 
> discussion about the
> Tomcat 3.3/4.0 issue, often including a full re-analysis of the events, 
> revision of the history, and sometimes degrading into a full 
> re-enactment of the emotionally charged flamewar that engulfed the 
> Tomcat project at the time.  Often even those who don't often 
> participate in such "interesting uses of time" will even "match the 
> judgement logic" necessary to participate in such a conversation.
> I hope one day my Law  is proven false.  Perhaps if those involved were 
> to take this on to a wiki and document all about it, the different view 
> points and lessons learned, opposing lessons learned etc, we could one 
> day make this law obsolete at least.  
> -Andy
> Joe Schaefer wrote:
> >Stefano Mazzocchi <stefano@apache.org> writes:
> >
> >[...]
> >
> >  
> >
> >>I believe it was a mistake to allow two different 
> >>codebases to share the same name. 
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >I'm not convinced that "having two codebases" is 
> >necessarily a mistake.  So far the discussion here 
> >seems to have centered around the concerns of the 
> >existing tomcat developers.  I'd like to know what 
> >the tomcat users (ie. the future tomcat developers) 
> >think of the 3.x/4.x division.
> >
> >  
> >
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