Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact community-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list community@apache.org Received: (qmail 74222 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 12:47:10 -0000 Received: from swami.xs4all.nl (HELO mvdb.net) (213.84.83.132) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 30 Oct 2002 12:47:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 1098 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 12:47:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO santi) (10.1.2.0) by swami.xs4all.nl with SMTP; 30 Oct 2002 12:47:10 -0000 From: "Martin van den Bemt" To: Subject: RE: ASF Membership Nomination Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:45:55 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <58897CE6-EC02-11D6-802A-003065F93D3A@topsail.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > > How many folks have read the foundation pages at http://www.apache.org/ > before joining a project? The bylaws and public records of ASF? Read > about other ASF projects? Learned what it is they're getting involved > with? Googled a bit to find out how ASF interacts with the world? Or to > see how and why other projects in the past have failed or succeeded? To be specific to my situation : I use httpd (who doesn't;)) and I use a lot of project that are on jakarta. You help others out on mailinglists, encounter some problems, you send some patches, you send more patches, you are nominated and become a committer to that project. Life goes on as normal, untill you hear something about the board, PMC, elections (not taling about voting rules, since you know them already big time by getting involved in porjects), etc. You think hey intersting, what's that all about ;). It's just a process of growth, which may evolve into bigger involvement in apache itself (which makes you a possible candidate for membership). It's nice to have some documents on all this stuff, but if you don't experience it, it stays pretty much a document. The same thing is with (almost) every newborn : he doesn't know everything yet and should grow to get more involved or understand what "it" is all about ;) Mvgr, Martin