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From: Ted Husted <husted@apache.org>
To: community@apache.org
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:48:52 -0500
Organization: Apache Softare Foundation - Jakarta Project
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Subject: Re: idiot.html
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The Jakarta website is managed by lazy consensus. If any of us 
working on the site actually took issue with that page, we'd 
just change it. I've often toned down some of the pages posted 
by our favorite PITA -- and have even been called a "wimp" for 
doing so. But no one's ever reverted my changes afterwards. 

-Ted.


10/28/2002 7:54:41 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe+apache@sunstarsys.com> 
wrote:

>Sam Ruby <rubys@apache.org> writes:
>
>
>> It has been pointed out that Jakarta committers have had 
very little 
>> exposure to ASF members.  Don't judge Jakarta committers by 
the
>> actions of the few ASF members that have cared enough to 
participate.
>
>I'm not judging the jakarta committers, certainly not 
negatively.
>I'm just trying to get some feeling for what the problems are, 
>how they are resolved in different developer communities.
>
>[...]
>
>> Here's an exercise for you: find a similar document created 
by a
>> non-ASF member.
>
>That's trivial- google("Smoothwall").  You can get the gist of
>their contempt for their "free" userbase just by reading
>
>  http://www.smoothwall.co.uk/support/
>
>-- 
>Joe Schaefer
>
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